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Old 06-26-2013, 06:57 PM   #21
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If Etown goes I don't think Atco can replace it , But MIR at Buds Creek Md is in better shape then Epping right now . They have enough parking for the pro's and a tower with suite's and there are no better track operator's then the Millers
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:12 PM   #22
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Englishtown was a supertrack before the word existed....
Very large..... and all paved pits for a number of years....lots of spectator parking....smooth as glass.....and has been redone a number of times...
Lots of spectator seating.

Two ways in and out......

Only drawback is the shutdown is relatively short but unless you look at the actual stats for many tracks you would not notice it....

Also has a completely seperate 1/8th mile track....

A very serious Motorcross track.....and a Motrocross practice track...

And a small paved road race type track......

And they race carts every Sunday in the spectator side parking lot...

The place is very active and usually well attended....

Sell it? Well sure anything is possible but so far that has not happened and has been a rumor for years and years.

Atco is a great place but it is small compared to E-Town and so is Epping....and both need major upgrades to even come close to E-Town....

I watched the race from Epping and they need to repave the shutdown area from the look of those Pro Stockers bouncing the nose slowing down...

Looked like they had a great turnout at Epping but I really don't think the place is all that big......I was there many years ago....Sat up on the hill at the finsihline for a while and watched.....
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:36 PM   #23
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I've seen in print David Napp stating that this latest round of rumors was an April Fools joke.

Anything is possible but if the track-haters around Raceway Park knew what was good for them they'd prefer the track over a mall or more housing development (which by the way, there is plenty of work going on just off of Texas Road). Imagine how much worse the traffic would be on any given weekend, starting with the fact that the local roads aren't big enough.
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Old 06-26-2013, 08:40 PM   #24
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If Etown goes I don't think Atco can replace it , But MIR at Buds Creek Md is in better shape then Epping right now . They have enough parking for the pro's and a tower with suite's and there are no better track operator's then the Millers
There would not be any "hook up" problems at MIR. Traction capitol of the Nation!
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:56 PM   #25
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1320Racer must be getting a CAT scan. Been pretty quiet lately. Thanks Kyle
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:21 PM   #26
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If Englishtown goes **** up would the NHRA bring Atco back into the fold for major events?

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Would never happen.
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Old 06-27-2013, 09:28 AM   #27
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Rich...I agree with your comments about E-Town over the years...Always thought
it was the BEST track east of Indy...and felt that way for last 40 yrs or so....

We NEED 3 healthy drag strips operating in NJ....Let's support ALL of them...ok?

Remember what happened to NY National...and Westhampton!

Just my .02.....
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Old 06-27-2013, 10:18 AM   #28
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I really don't think E-Town is going anywhere for a least the next 10 years or so. Maybe eventually the Napps will get an offer they can't refuse but, for the most part the track is still successful. I mean Epping maybe took a little bit of thunder from them with spectators as some of the Northern New Englanders who used to drive down to E-Town to see the Nitro Cars stayed close to home since the economy is not the best right now. Plus it was an Inaugural event so who wouldn't want to say "I was at the first Epping National Event."

Unfortunately Atco has too many restrictions with the Pine Barrens act that will not allow them to cut down trees down to expand much more, plus they would have to have the state or city do a lot to Jackson Road to make it allow to fit the traffic. They expanded the road to get into the place because of complaints of cars miles long during their Honda Days. I mean they used to host an IHRA National Event back in the day but, I don't think IHRA Brings as much as NHRA does with Nat Events and they hosted IHRA National Events when the NHRA Pro's were playing "Double Duty". I remember the last year I was there Bernstein, Larson, Snow, Glidden, Rickie Smith Amato and more were all there.

MIR would be a great track to add to the D-1 schedule for National and Divisional races and Royce runs a top notch facility and I put money on it the place would be packed better then Epping was. The only problem is he's still under IHRA for a couple more years. Trust me I think within the next year or 2 you will see Virginia back on the National Schedule. NHRA Has said they are really striving to get back into the Washington / Richmond / Baltimore area again.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:29 AM   #29
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The Virginia National event was perfect. Get that one back. As far as Etown, I hope everything works out for them, it's my favorite race of the year. Still can't understand how you can build houses near a track and make new rules...

On a side note, what would happen if we ran before 10am and after 6pm? Fines? Maybe NHRA can pick up the tab so we can make a statement to those primadonnas in the area.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:35 AM   #30
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Further, the Napp's ain't stupid, they don't need to sell to a developer when they could develop the land themselves!
Selling land you own gets you a lot of cash right now.

Developing land you own means putting up more of your own money now and waiting for the payoff.

I have no knowledge of the rumor but am just pointing out that the smart move for someone in the same situation could be to just sell and pocket the money.

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