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Old 05-16-2013, 08:57 PM   #21
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I fail to see the correlation of someone wearing the wrong pants and a counterfeit sfi tag. That being said I guess nhra wants to make sure you got good belts on before they send you down a crappy track like they had at Vegas.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:32 PM   #22
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NHRA has blown this out of proportion, if they were counterfit Bob had nothing
to do with it. The only thing Bob did wrong was not check the tag to see if it
was the right tag , the tags were not the correct tags for seat belts. How many
of you know the correct tag? I have raced for 40 years and have never checked.
The car never went down the track at Atlanta, when Bob was told of the problem
he put new belts in on the spot. Were the belts less safe because they had the
wrong tag? I dont think so. Bob & Bugs have been loyal and long time customers
of NHRA and this is how they are treated? This is another over reaction by NHRA
and they wonder why the car count is down?
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:39 PM   #23
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I think there is a good deal more, to this, than we know. They are both good people. Something evidently got blown way out of proportion here.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:42 PM   #24
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Looks like the fine and suspension was mainly because he didn't allow NHRA to confiscate the belts and the discussion between him and NHRA may have got a little heated.
I think Toby may have gotten it correct. NHRA and SFI take counterfeiting those tags seriously. Bob should probably have simply given up the bogus belts and told the tech dept where he bought them. NHRA and SFI could have followed up on it from there. It makes one wonder why he did not want to give up the belts.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:47 PM   #25
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C&P from YB. Probably very lucky he has the magic last name if this is true.

So at the Indy Divisional a friend of mine's rig is parked along the wall of the back stretch of the oval track there. Right near the outside of what would be turn three. I forgot what time, but let's call it 2am, my friends who were asleep in their rig heard "BANG!!!!" Woke up and thought someone had run into their motor home. They look out the window and there's a car out on the circle track that must have been racing or something, but anyway it had found itself into the wall so hard it deployed the airbags and appeared to have totaled the car. After a couple of minutes two occupants emerged, appearing to have been stunned by the impact &/or getting blasted in the face with airbags. Perhaps inebriated, they assessed their totaled car and abandoned it. Multiple officers to the scene, etc.

We were wondering who that was.......
At Indy? Well we just call that "Old School Indy"! Your lucky that car wasn't on its ROOF!
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:56 AM   #26
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C&P from YB. Probably very lucky he has the magic last name if this is true.

So at the Indy Divisional a friend of mine's rig is parked along the wall of the back stretch of the oval track there. Right near the outside of what would be turn three. I forgot what time, but let's call it 2am, my friends who were asleep in their rig heard "BANG!!!!" Woke up and thought someone had run into their motor home. They look out the window and there's a car out on the circle track that must have been racing or something, but anyway it had found itself into the wall so hard it deployed the airbags and appeared to have totaled the car. After a couple of minutes two occupants emerged, appearing to have been stunned by the impact &/or getting blasted in the face with airbags. Perhaps inebriated, they assessed their totaled car and abandoned it. Multiple officers to the scene, etc.

We were wondering who that was.......
Interesting that this wasn't posted in the NHRA.com racer section? Wonder why it was tucked in the corner of National Dragster?
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:59 AM   #27
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I think Toby may have gotten it correct. NHRA and SFI take counterfeiting those tags seriously. Bob should probably have simply given up the bogus belts and told the tech dept where he bought them. NHRA and SFI could have followed up on it from there. It makes one wonder why he did not want to give up the belts.
This makes racers look bad especially sportsman racers....I agree with the above, just give the belts up and save the negative publicity on both sides. What a waiste of time. Class racers are not looking for cheat ways out of rules and NHRA has rules to enforce.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:24 AM   #28
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This is an obvious witch hunt on the side of NHRA with their desperate attempt at money grabbing. What will be a real thrill is when chinese made belts ooze their way into the system that get blessed with "legitimate" SFI tags that immediately fail and make a mockery of SFI. Mark my word IT WILL HAPPEN.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:31 AM   #29
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Do you think Bob wanted to keep the belts to go back to the manufacturer with the problem. Had he given them up he would have no proof. Are you required to surrender these parts?
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:44 AM   #30
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Do you think Bob wanted to keep the belts to go back to the manufacturer with the problem. Had he given them up he would have no proof. Are you required to surrender these parts?
They've been known to cut belts out of cars; about 4 years ago a racer (not stock or super stock) failed tech for outdated belts, then went thru tech with borrowed belts and was then caught with the old belts back in. Some of the D2 racers may remember getting your Q time slip and then being pulled over to have belts checked. In this instance the racer was DQ'd for the race but returned to action at a subsequent race. My only point is there must have been 'animated conversation' surrounding the incident and whomever to blame Bob and Bugs are going to pay the price.
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