Mopars Little A Body Terrors... - Page 10

Rob Ayres · 03-15-2013, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie A

You have great vision. That would be "Super Grog".

I remember that day. That's my dad leaning in on the passenger side of the car. If memory serves me correctly, we got our butt kicked in class eliminations by Marv Ripes.

Paul Ceasrine · 03-15-2013, 08:47 PM

I'll see if I can find the 1969 National Records.

We were there, with a 1967 Barracuda Fastback 273/235 HP classed in K/S.

And one our friends brought out his 1967 Barracuda Fastback 383/280 HP to run in H/SA.

Nobody could believe the 383 could be classed there.

Paul Ceasrine · 03-16-2013, 10:22 AM

1969 National Records

N/S......13.97 @ 99.10 MPH
N/SA... 14.38 @ 95.55 MPH

I think that is close

Rob Ayres · 03-18-2013, 08:02 AM

We set the N/SA record in the spring of 69 at LaPlace , LA. 14.15
I still have the certificate. We loved that place. The little 2bbl 273 would fly at those sea level tracks.

Paul Ceasrine · 03-18-2013, 08:24 AM

Rob,

That's an excellent E.T.

Here are the 1966 National Records, when the 66' Valiant 273/180 HP
would have been classed in I/S or I/SA (15.00 - 15.59 Wt/Hp)

I/S.........14.28 @ 96.35 MPH..........1956 Chevrolet
I/SA......14.78 @ 93.94 MPH...........1958 Chevrolet

Those 'Cheating Bastards'.....

Never could quite figure out the (+55) Horsepower difference between
the 273/235 HP 'Commando' and the 273/180 HP.

Piston Compression
Camshaft
Valve Springs
Intake
Carburetor
Dual-Point Distributor

Always thought the 273/235 HP was 'over-rated' by the 'Factory Rating', even though we ran a bunch of them.

Much closer to 215 to 220 Horsepower, that the NHRA finally recognized.

Rob Ayres · 03-18-2013, 09:57 AM

We originally ran a 65 Barracuda- 273-235 hp combination, but after fighting the chevys for a few years switched to the 180 hp 2bbl combo. Dad said several times that it was nuts for our combo to be rated at 235 hp while the 283 Chevy's were rated at 220 hp. He complained to Farmer every time he saw him, but to no avail. HP adjustments were virtually non existent back then.

Paul Ceasrine · 03-18-2013, 04:23 PM

I remember in 1967.....

Classed with our 67' Barracuda 273/235 HP in F/Stock (12.50 - 13.99 Wt/Hp).

The Chevy's

* 1965 Chevy Nova SS.............................283/220 HP
* 1961 Corvette......................................... 283/230 HP
* 1965 Chevelle Malibu SS.......................327/250 HP
* 1966 Chevy II............................................283/220 HP

* 1957 Chevy #150.....................................283/250 HP 'Fuel Injection'
* 1957 Chevy Beauville Station Wagon....283/283 HP 'Fuel Injection'
* 1957 2-Door Handyman Special.............283/270 HP 'Dual-Carb'

* 1961 Chevrolet Impala (convertible).......348/280 HP '3 Deuces'

That was just a start...........

Paul Ceasrine · 03-22-2013, 09:05 AM

Ran....... 13.91 in F/Stock first time out,

Right off the trailer at the 1965 AHRA Summernationals in Gary, Indiana.

Charlie A · 03-22-2013, 04:14 PM

Thanks to Rob Ayres:

Paul Ceasrine · 03-22-2013, 06:56 PM

Never saw this available at the Dealerships....

03-15-2013, 08:47 PM	#92
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... I'll see if I can find the 1969 National Records. We were there, with a 1967 Barracuda Fastback 273/235 HP classed in K/S. And one our friends brought out his 1967 Barracuda Fastback 383/280 HP to run in H/SA. Nobody could believe the 383 could be classed there.

03-16-2013, 10:22 AM	#93
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... 1969 National Records N/S......13.97 @ 99.10 MPH N/SA... 14.38 @ 95.55 MPH I think that is close Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 03-18-2013 at 08:25 AM.

03-18-2013, 08:02 AM	#94
Rob Ayres Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 31 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... We set the N/SA record in the spring of 69 at LaPlace , LA. 14.15 I still have the certificate. We loved that place. The little 2bbl 273 would fly at those sea level tracks.

03-18-2013, 08:24 AM	#95
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... Rob, That's an excellent E.T. Here are the 1966 National Records, when the 66' Valiant 273/180 HP would have been classed in I/S or I/SA (15.00 - 15.59 Wt/Hp) I/S.........14.28 @ 96.35 MPH..........1956 Chevrolet I/SA......14.78 @ 93.94 MPH...........1958 Chevrolet Those 'Cheating Bastards'..... Never could quite figure out the (+55) Horsepower difference between the 273/235 HP 'Commando' and the 273/180 HP. Piston Compression Camshaft Valve Springs Intake Carburetor Dual-Point Distributor Always thought the 273/235 HP was 'over-rated' by the 'Factory Rating', even though we ran a bunch of them. Much closer to 215 to 220 Horsepower, that the NHRA finally recognized.

03-18-2013, 09:57 AM	#96
Rob Ayres Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rogers, AR Posts: 32 Likes: 0 Liked 31 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... We originally ran a 65 Barracuda- 273-235 hp combination, but after fighting the chevys for a few years switched to the 180 hp 2bbl combo. Dad said several times that it was nuts for our combo to be rated at 235 hp while the 283 Chevy's were rated at 220 hp. He complained to Farmer every time he saw him, but to no avail. HP adjustments were virtually non existent back then.

03-18-2013, 04:23 PM	#97
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... I remember in 1967..... Classed with our 67' Barracuda 273/235 HP in F/Stock (12.50 - 13.99 Wt/Hp). The Chevy's * 1965 Chevy Nova SS.............................283/220 HP * 1961 Corvette......................................... 283/230 HP * 1965 Chevelle Malibu SS.......................327/250 HP * 1966 Chevy II............................................283/220 HP * 1957 Chevy #150.....................................283/250 HP 'Fuel Injection' * 1957 Chevy Beauville Station Wagon....283/283 HP 'Fuel Injection' * 1957 2-Door Handyman Special.............283/270 HP 'Dual-Carb' * 1961 Chevrolet Impala (convertible).......348/280 HP '3 Deuces' That was just a start........... Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 03-18-2013 at 04:26 PM.

03-22-2013, 09:05 AM	#98
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... Ran....... 13.91 in F/Stock first time out, Right off the trailer at the 1965 AHRA Summernationals in Gary, Indiana.

03-22-2013, 04:14 PM	#99
Charlie A VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mississippi Gulf Coast Posts: 2,483 Likes: 68 Liked 87 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... Thanks to Rob Ayres: Last edited by Charlie A; 03-22-2013 at 07:38 PM.

03-22-2013, 06:56 PM	#100
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Mopars Little A Body Terrors... Never saw this available at the Dealerships....