Amx s/s

[CycloneFE]

Hey Ed F. and Jeff L. this is up your alley. And I would not dream of putting this in the "ugly" thread.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/220877806278

[Jeff Lee]

There has been much discussion on this particular car on several of the AMC sites. It appears this was a dealer built clone using AMC parts. It was a lot cheaper than buying direct from the factory. But then again, true factory built Super Stock AMX'es are worth a whole lot more than a clone! This car lacks the required spread on true factory SS VIN's. There is a push by a few to have the car "accepted" as an original because of it's racing pedigree and dealer built status. I wish them luck.
I have a buddy here in AZ with #3 of the original's for sale. $135K buys it. As you can see, there is a pretty large gap between pretend and real.

[Paul Precht]

It's got almost a million miles, I bet the valve guides are shot.

[Ed Fernandez]

The Vin # doesn't lie.It's a clone and pricing should go a bit higher and would be reasonable for a car that needs to be finished.In the end you wind up with SS clone car.

[Hemi Moose]

Nice looking car, so whats he asking for it?

[Steves68Nova]

I think I will go take a closer look at that AMX down the road I pass every day. If it is a 390 car I am gonna sell everything I have to buy it. I had no idea what they were worth.

[Bob Rice]

Here's what a former owner had to say about the car.

This is my old car. I bought it in the mid 70s from CA Cox AMC in Wollaston,
MA. after the owner of the dealership passed away. The owner's son Bruce raced
this from 1969 until he was actually killed at the track racing another car in
early 70s. The car sat for a few years when I bought it, and kept it until
2004. I met a lot of people at various events that knew the car well, to include
people there the day Bruce was killed. These cars were consistent low 10,
occasional 9 second cars from the factory, and the SS/E records were held by
Pete's Patriot and Shirley Shahan's Drag-On Lady cars for ET and MPH. AMC made
53 of these cars at the Hurst facility in Ferndale, MI with 52 sequential VINs
and an earlier prototype. (Garrett Ghezzi owns and still races the prototype
car). Some other cars were made by Hurst out of sequence, but nobody knows how
many but one is documented-the Canadian Honker, still owned by the original
owner but not raced in years.

When I bought this car it had a lot of paperwork from Hurst that was sent to the
owners of the 52 cars. As a matter of fact, this car had more paperwork than any
other car except for the VIN specific stuff, like bulletins, updates, etc.
Probably not done by Hurst but certainly a period correct car that did have all
the correct part number stuff:

The all metal hood scoop, hammered out and not stamped.
Correct carbs-Holley made the #4584 carbs just for this car, so not a lot out
there. I traded the original part numbered carbs to ken Freeman who raced an
AMX and lived down the cape not far from me. He needed a correct set of carbs a
lot more than me, and it was in the late 80s when the old race cars were really
not worth a ton of money like now. Aris Asdorian currently owns and races Ken's
old car. It does not have the correct forged axles, but when I bought it the car
had the nodular case Ford 9"-kind of a no brainer as it bolted right in without
any mods at all. I gave that rearend to a friend who was restoring a Shelby
Mustang and put a stock AMC rear with the 4.44 gears. Otherwise it has the
correct block-off plates, intake, wiring, battery relocation, distributor, etc.
etc.

Unfortunately the AMC crowd is very narrow minded and feels if it is not an
original VIN sequenced car built by Hurst it is worthless, and there have been
so many discussions on the AMC forums about everything wrong with the car that
the reserve is actually almost met. (And a real Hurst AMX, #3, is currently for
sale for $135K. The #29 car recently sold for $150K).

For more info on the Hurst Super Stock AMX program be sure to visit my website:

www.superstockamx.com

Thomas M. Benvie
5 Sachem Rock Ave
East Bridgewater, MA 02333

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by Steves68Nova

I think I will go take a closer look at that AMX down the road I pass every day. If it is a 390 car I am gonna sell everything I have to buy it. I had no idea what they were worth.

The same buddy that has a TRUE '69 SS/AMX for sale has a '69 AMX 390/ 315 HP, 4-speed just off a fresh restoration. He painted it red / white / blue, has the SS scoop (not installed but it is painted), fresh 390 and the most perfect sheet metal you've ever seen. That's OEM original, top to bottom, bumper to bumper. And it's not a rotiseree restoration. It's just the product of dry, Arizona. He even has a cross-ram intake you could negotiate with the purchase. Probably around $20K. Let me know if your seriously interested.

[Tom Goldman]

This is a car for a true AMC racer or collector, not some get rich from flipping a rare car spanker.
There were probably as many clone AMX's out there as real ones.
Yes it is not one of the original 52 ,but it's pedigree,along with the fact that it has extensive documation ,along with all those original Group 19 parts,make it a great car for a true AMC collector.
Since the inflated prices of Muscle Cars has fallen dramaticaly, cars like this will eventually become priced closer to reality .

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

This is a car for a true AMC racer or collector, not some get rich from flipping a rare car spanker.

Thank You!