Interesting Tree Malfunction

LindseyCramsey · 06-19-2011, 10:23 PM

June 19th at the Bandimere Speedway Divisional

LindseyCramsey · 06-19-2011, 11:12 PM

Time Slip from the run

SStockDart · 06-19-2011, 11:34 PM

A little hard to explain that. I didn't see the car move. It didn't look like he went in deep.

LindseyCramsey · 06-19-2011, 11:47 PM

Yes, the other weird part is that he is about 5 tenths off all the way down the track from every other pass he ran. The other strange part is that it seems to have occurred again in the final round with Bob Johnson.

Mike Carr · 06-19-2011, 11:59 PM

I had this happen a few times to me, with an HF/SA Sunbird. Billy (the car owner) had built a new header for it. The header, which came down the front, would sometimes trip the beam. I could not be staged shallow, or what happened in the video would occasionally happen to me, and get a bad redlight (second amber or ealy on the third) without moving an inch. Like the ET slip shows, I was red by large margin (about -.4 to -.5 red, and all my incremental numbers down track would be off by the same amount. If I was shown as .233 red (old style, now a -.267), I'd be off about .26 ET all the way down. It is possible that something on the car was in the beam, hanging by the tire which caused this issue. Once I pumped my front slicks up to 45-50 PSI, I wouldn't have an issue (the header would gain clearance, because the front of the car sat higher). If they were 35-40, I could get a redlight at times. Have your friend go through and check ANYTHING that could interrupt the beam (wire, front spoiler, etc) and move/remove it, so this issue won't happen again.

X-TECH MAN · 06-20-2011, 06:33 AM

I think the old TV show the "X Files" had a story on this.

Kenny Wigington · 06-20-2011, 08:33 AM

Something else tripped the bulb. That car didnt move, if it did, it was fractions of an inch, FORWARD.

I was at a bracket race back some yrs ago and a frog was hanging out by the guardrail and would block the beam, a few times until starter finally saw him. tree would blink some with no car there, so it became obvious something was there, that shouldnt have been.

SS/Pontiac · 06-20-2011, 09:10 AM

Sad way to lose a race.

Jody Lang · 06-20-2011, 11:22 AM

So he didnt lift after he left the line?

Obviously the timer started when the stage lights went off. It's definetely a malfunction because both lights went out at the same time! Shouldnt the pre stage light go out a split second before the stage when the car takes off?

Seems very similar to the issue at Pomona in Super Stock this year???

LindseyCramsey · 06-20-2011, 11:43 AM

Jody,

He did not lift. It also occurred in the final round of stock eliminator as well. It shows that Bob Johnson LB3A and ran a second slow, however since Randy red lit, Bob's tree came down normally and did not stop the way Michaels did.

06-19-2011, 10:23 PM	#1
LindseyCramsey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Interesting Tree Malfunction June 19th at the Bandimere Speedway Divisional

06-19-2011, 11:12 PM	#2
LindseyCramsey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction Time Slip from the run Attached Thumbnails

06-19-2011, 11:34 PM	#3
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 878 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction A little hard to explain that. I didn't see the car move. It didn't look like he went in deep.

06-19-2011, 11:47 PM	#4
LindseyCramsey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction Yes, the other weird part is that he is about 5 tenths off all the way down the track from every other pass he ran. The other strange part is that it seems to have occurred again in the final round with Bob Johnson.

06-19-2011, 11:59 PM	#5
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction I had this happen a few times to me, with an HF/SA Sunbird. Billy (the car owner) had built a new header for it. The header, which came down the front, would sometimes trip the beam. I could not be staged shallow, or what happened in the video would occasionally happen to me, and get a bad redlight (second amber or ealy on the third) without moving an inch. Like the ET slip shows, I was red by large margin (about -.4 to -.5 red, and all my incremental numbers down track would be off by the same amount. If I was shown as .233 red (old style, now a -.267), I'd be off about .26 ET all the way down. It is possible that something on the car was in the beam, hanging by the tire which caused this issue. Once I pumped my front slicks up to 45-50 PSI, I wouldn't have an issue (the header would gain clearance, because the front of the car sat higher). If they were 35-40, I could get a redlight at times. Have your friend go through and check ANYTHING that could interrupt the beam (wire, front spoiler, etc) and move/remove it, so this issue won't happen again. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

06-20-2011, 06:33 AM	#6
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction I think the old TV show the "X Files" had a story on this.

06-20-2011, 08:33 AM	#7
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction Something else tripped the bulb. That car didnt move, if it did, it was fractions of an inch, FORWARD. I was at a bracket race back some yrs ago and a frog was hanging out by the guardrail and would block the beam, a few times until starter finally saw him. tree would blink some with no car there, so it became obvious something was there, that shouldnt have been. __________________ 2894 STK

06-20-2011, 09:10 AM	#8
SS/Pontiac Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Golden Colorado Posts: 29 Likes: 0 Liked 15 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction Sad way to lose a race.

06-20-2011, 11:22 AM	#9
Jody Lang Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 306 Likes: 28 Liked 89 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction So he didnt lift after he left the line? Obviously the timer started when the stage lights went off. It's definetely a malfunction because both lights went out at the same time! Shouldnt the pre stage light go out a split second before the stage when the car takes off? Seems very similar to the issue at Pomona in Super Stock this year???

06-20-2011, 11:43 AM	#10
LindseyCramsey Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Interesting Tree Malfunction Jody, He did not lift. It also occurred in the final round of stock eliminator as well. It shows that Bob Johnson LB3A and ran a second slow, however since Randy red lit, Bob's tree came down normally and did not stop the way Michaels did.