New class structures

Ed Fernandez · 03-05-2011, 01:13 AM

Just a few thoughts.Probably not feasible but what the hell

Top Fuel:
428 CI max 2 engines per race
1 Mag
1 Spec pump
80% nitro

F/C
400 CI max 2 engines per race
1 Mag
1 Spec pump
No more Bat Cars-Body reverts to specs of 70s bodys w/spoilers allowed for safety.

Here's something different.T/F and F/C 28 car fields.That means 3rd rd bye.but the new rules should cut down on time consuming oildowns.

Pro Stock
358 CI
FI
Manufacturer engine Ford/Ford GM/GM Mopar/Mopar

PSB-No changes

Alcohol Dragster no more-Lower cost of Fuel makes them switch to T/F
Alcohol F/C-Same as Alcohol Dragster

Comp becomes top sportsman classes at nationals-No T/S or T/D

S/C-S/G-S/St run all nationals-Entries depend on track curfew schedule time frame.

S/SS-80 car fields when no class and 100-120 depending on that curfew schedules.

Last but not least.No a$$holes shooting shirts into stands.no Evel Knevel wannabes
riding on front wheel.(unless they fly off and smooch their mugs on the asphault.

Please feel free to add any suggestions.Some changes really need to be made to save our sport.

Bill D. your suggestions are welcomed too.Gary also,as long as Bush,Republicans and the 2%ers are left out.

Eric Kitzan · 03-05-2011, 01:37 AM

It's a really good start as far as the pukers go I like the changes you mentioned not sure if it would be necessary to decrease the cid, but what the heck why not I guess. As far as PS I don't think that would go over very well, that was tried one before with the PS trucks which I thought was a very cool class. The only problem was NHRA and the fans that only like racecars that prolapse half way doing the track didn't think so and we all know what happened to that class.

skills · 03-05-2011, 02:30 AM

Okay Ed I like your fuel ideas. Some people like running alcohol though, and I love comp ts/td is okay but I enjoy comp alot better. Ideas are good though would be cool 28 car fields.

greg fulk · 03-05-2011, 03:33 AM

Ed I like it....1 thing...how about 408 inches for Pro Stock with small blocks being 200Lbs lighter?

doublet · 03-05-2011, 08:07 AM

Here's something different.T/F and F/C 28 car fields.That means 3rd rd bye.but the new rules should cut down on time consuming oildowns

What I would like is to see 20, 24,28, or whatever, fields, and instead of a ladder like they have now, with possible predetermined outcomes (1 and 2 can't meet till the finals etc) after first round it becomes the low et of each round meeting the high et, 2nd lowest meets second high, etc. If there is a bye in elims, the car with the lowest et average for the race gets it.

X-TECH MAN · 03-05-2011, 09:07 AM

Just get rid of the damn delay boxes for Top Sportsman and all the electronics/timers for the .90 cars. If ya cant drive......take up golf.

CycloneFE · 03-05-2011, 01:24 PM

In Ed's idea, if the Pro Stock seem to "run out of motor" they can be switched to 1000 foot also. Possibly the PSM?

Just thinking like Ed is.

Mike Schwartz · 03-05-2011, 01:45 PM

Your Pro Stock proposal sounds like Australian Pro Stock

http://www.draglist.com/draglist/cat...EAR%2CMPH+DESC

stefan callender · 03-05-2011, 02:16 PM

The NHRA needs to wake up in Pro Stock, EFI is the answer. Carbs are a thing of the past. A raised hood, and injectors. The cars will actually look more like a stock appearing vehicle.

Curmudgeon · 03-05-2011, 06:21 PM

Very interesting concept proposed. I would also suggest blower size reduction and same cid for both fuel catagories. Like bringing bodies back to something looking like an automobile again. Would also suggest a reshuffling of Sportsman ranks. Could put S/C into Comp , bring back Street/Modified Eliminator to include some full bodied cars from Comp and the S/G and S/St cars . Sticking point would be whether or not to allow current stumble starts of .90 cars. Any changes would need to be phased -in so as not to bankrupt competitors and parts manuf/suppliers ,

03-05-2011, 01:13 AM	#1
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	New class structures Just a few thoughts.Probably not feasible but what the hell Top Fuel: 428 CI max 2 engines per race 1 Mag 1 Spec pump 80% nitro F/C 400 CI max 2 engines per race 1 Mag 1 Spec pump No more Bat Cars-Body reverts to specs of 70s bodys w/spoilers allowed for safety. Here's something different.T/F and F/C 28 car fields.That means 3rd rd bye.but the new rules should cut down on time consuming oildowns. Pro Stock 358 CI FI Manufacturer engine Ford/Ford GM/GM Mopar/Mopar PSB-No changes Alcohol Dragster no more-Lower cost of Fuel makes them switch to T/F Alcohol F/C-Same as Alcohol Dragster Comp becomes top sportsman classes at nationals-No T/S or T/D S/C-S/G-S/St run all nationals-Entries depend on track curfew schedule time frame. S/SS-80 car fields when no class and 100-120 depending on that curfew schedules. Last but not least.No a$$holes shooting shirts into stands.no Evel Knevel wannabes riding on front wheel.(unless they fly off and smooch their mugs on the asphault. Please feel free to add any suggestions.Some changes really need to be made to save our sport. Bill D. your suggestions are welcomed too.Gary also,as long as Bush,Republicans and the 2%ers are left out. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

03-05-2011, 01:37 AM	#2
Eric Kitzan Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Glen ullin ND Posts: 62 Likes: 3 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New class structures It's a really good start as far as the pukers go I like the changes you mentioned not sure if it would be necessary to decrease the cid, but what the heck why not I guess. As far as PS I don't think that would go over very well, that was tried one before with the PS trucks which I thought was a very cool class. The only problem was NHRA and the fans that only like racecars that prolapse half way doing the track didn't think so and we all know what happened to that class. __________________ Eric Kitzan 66 Chevelle Malibu Wagon Stocker

03-05-2011, 02:30 AM	#3
skills Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Hershey,pa Posts: 187 Likes: 0 Liked 8 Times in 1 Post	Re: New class structures Okay Ed I like your fuel ideas. Some people like running alcohol though, and I love comp ts/td is okay but I enjoy comp alot better. Ideas are good though would be cool 28 car fields.

03-05-2011, 03:33 AM	#4
greg fulk VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jackson Posts: 1,165 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: New class structures Ed I like it....1 thing...how about 408 inches for Pro Stock with small blocks being 200Lbs lighter? __________________ Greg Fulk 308 308X P/SA "ALL AMERICAN"

03-05-2011, 08:07 AM	#5
doublet Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 27 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New class structures Here's something different.T/F and F/C 28 car fields.That means 3rd rd bye.but the new rules should cut down on time consuming oildowns What I would like is to see 20, 24,28, or whatever, fields, and instead of a ladder like they have now, with possible predetermined outcomes (1 and 2 can't meet till the finals etc) after first round it becomes the low et of each round meeting the high et, 2nd lowest meets second high, etc. If there is a bye in elims, the car with the lowest et average for the race gets it.

03-05-2011, 09:07 AM	#6
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: New class structures Just get rid of the damn delay boxes for Top Sportsman and all the electronics/timers for the .90 cars. If ya cant drive......take up golf. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 03-05-2011 at 02:20 PM.

03-05-2011, 01:24 PM	#7
CycloneFE Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Decatur Illinois Posts: 634 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: New class structures In Ed's idea, if the Pro Stock seem to "run out of motor" they can be switched to 1000 foot also. Possibly the PSM? Just thinking like Ed is. __________________ Steve Jackson

03-05-2011, 01:45 PM	#8
Mike Schwartz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Maryland USA Posts: 533 Likes: 129 Liked 248 Times in 89 Posts	Re: New class structures Your Pro Stock proposal sounds like Australian Pro Stock http://www.draglist.com/draglist/cat...EAR%2CMPH+DESC

03-05-2011, 02:16 PM	#9
stefan callender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: zoo york Posts: 572 Likes: 3 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: New class structures The NHRA needs to wake up in Pro Stock, EFI is the answer. Carbs are a thing of the past. A raised hood, and injectors. The cars will actually look more like a stock appearing vehicle.

03-05-2011, 06:21 PM	#10
Curmudgeon Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Asheville,N.C. Posts: 54 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New class structures Very interesting concept proposed. I would also suggest blower size reduction and same cid for both fuel catagories. Like bringing bodies back to something looking like an automobile again. Would also suggest a reshuffling of Sportsman ranks. Could put S/C into Comp , bring back Street/Modified Eliminator to include some full bodied cars from Comp and the S/G and S/St cars . Sticking point would be whether or not to allow current stumble starts of .90 cars. Any changes would need to be phased -in so as not to bankrupt competitors and parts manuf/suppliers ,