Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days??? - Page 7

Ed Wright · 02-15-2011, 11:28 AM

Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain how TV works. Some people just can't seem to accept that what we do ain't really that big a deal. I appreciate your time and effort.

Ed Fernandez · 02-15-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain how TV works. Some people just can't seem to accept that what we do ain't really that big a deal. I appreciate your time and effort.

I would say that Mr Wright has got it right.In the scheme of things we are just a pimple on a mosquito's balls
FED,Mike Neff is the man now.Watch that old man go now.Oh I forgot,you won't be watching.:>)

Marvin Robinson · 02-15-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain how TV works. Some people just can't seem to accept that what we do ain't really that big a deal. I appreciate your time and effort.

Ed, you are right, what we do in the grand scheme of things is not really that big of a deal, but since when does THAT have anything to do with getting good coverage??? The intensity, sophistication and technical advances in the S/SS, sportsman cars, and the strategy and dedication of the committed racers are worthy of decent coverage. Gamblers and bowlers get a much better break on television... no one is putting the right viewer package in place for this group.

Ed Wright · 02-15-2011, 07:21 PM

Well, I think Bret explained why pretty well. Not enough people are all that interested. They understand the faster car getting there first. Don't have to learn a lot about it to know which car won and why. Think some of us may be a little too impressed with what we do? Bowling and poker evidently interest more people than us. I know a lot more people that bowl and/ or play poker than drag race.

I would enjoy great S/SS/Comp coverage, but I understand why we don't see it.

Bret Kepner · 02-15-2011, 07:37 PM

I'm glad I offered some understanding to some of you. For the rest of you, I learned long ago to never argue with ghosts. Thus ends my participation in this thread.

FED, I do not work for, nor do I have any connection with, the National Hot Rod Association. Sorry to ruin your fun. LOL!

FED 387 · 02-15-2011, 07:56 PM

Bret--I think you misunderstood me I never said you worked for the NHRA--- Aren't you maybe assigned an announcing job or you are involved with the production of the show--Who decides what will be shown on the individual show??? Could you on your own say we're gonna do only Sportsman today or is the subject matter chosen for you??? Who actually makes the decision as to who/what is going to be the subject matter for an episode??? The production company--the shows producer or director--the NHRA???? Somebody/someone makes the decision who is it???? That is what alot of this discussion is about.

I understand somewhat how TV shows work my Son in Law is involved with Fox/Showtime/ABC and has done about 25 years as an A camera operator also has done quite a bit working with Spielberg and Dreamworks as well as other studios doing feature length films and many many commercials for Bud/Buick/Ford/Chevy just to name a few as well as other major companies too...

So I guess the question everbody is really asking is WHO makes the decision???

Greg Hill · 02-16-2011, 11:49 AM

NHRA makes the decisions on what is shown on their coverage on National events and they have chosen to leave sportsmen out entirely.

Marvin Robinson · 02-16-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Well, I think Bret explained why pretty well. Not enough people are all that interested. They understand the faster car getting there first. Don't have to learn a lot about it to know which car won and why. Think some of us may be a little too impressed with what we do? Bowling and poker evidently interest more people than us. I know a lot more people that bowl and/ or play poker than drag race.

I would enjoy great S/SS/Comp coverage, but I understand why we don't see it.

Ed, I would buy that premise, if people were not watching the Pro coverage of NHRA... I think the same audience would appreciate Sportsman racing just as well, IF it were presented to them properly... my point on the bowling and gambling is that the TV coverage has expanded greatly in both in the last 2-3 years as a result of someone revamping the presentation of those activities (I have a problem calling either a SPORT, even though I am an active USBC bowler myself).

Ed Fernandez · 02-16-2011, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin Robinson

Ed, I would buy that premise, if people were not watching the Pro coverage of NHRA... I think the same audience would appreciate Sportsman racing just as well, IF it were presented to them properly... my point on the bowling and gambling is that the TV coverage has expanded greatly in both in the last 2-3 years as a result of someone revamping the presentation of those activities (I have a problem calling either a SPORT, even though I am an active USBC bowler myself).

Marvin,it still comes down to numbers,as in participants and fan understanding.Most
people have bowled at one time or another and most people have gambled at one time or another.Not many of the + or - 300 million people in this country have raced or see
a whole lot of racing,least of all drag racing,to care to educate themselves about what we do.
Bar stool races,lawn mower races and the like are a novelty that they might watch for a good laugh.In the end Ed W is right about the situation.

FED 387 · 02-16-2011, 02:18 PM

Greg--that is what I'm getting at NHRA calls the shots here--Next question is who at NHRA makes the decision on what to show???? Somebody or a group of people does---who is it give us a name??? Then we can maybe talk to that person and see if why they do not promote anything other than Force aka Funny Car and a few other Pros---Probably wont do any good but at least maybe viewers could vent some frustration--FED387

02-15-2011, 11:28 AM	#61
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days? Thanks for taking the time to respond and explain how TV works. Some people just can't seem to accept that what we do ain't really that big a deal. I appreciate your time and effort. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-15-2011, 07:21 PM	#64
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days? Well, I think Bret explained why pretty well. Not enough people are all that interested. They understand the faster car getting there first. Don't have to learn a lot about it to know which car won and why. Think some of us may be a little too impressed with what we do? Bowling and poker evidently interest more people than us. I know a lot more people that bowl and/ or play poker than drag race. I would enjoy great S/SS/Comp coverage, but I understand why we don't see it. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

02-15-2011, 07:37 PM	#65
Bret Kepner Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri, USA Posts: 418 Likes: 1 Liked 11 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days? I'm glad I offered some understanding to some of you. For the rest of you, I learned long ago to never argue with ghosts. Thus ends my participation in this thread. FED, I do not work for, nor do I have any connection with, the National Hot Rod Association. Sorry to ruin your fun. LOL! __________________ Bret Kepner BRETKEPNER@Prodigy.net Saint Louis, Missouri, USA

02-15-2011, 07:56 PM	#66
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,416 Likes: 522 Liked 330 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days? Bret--I think you misunderstood me I never said you worked for the NHRA--- Aren't you maybe assigned an announcing job or you are involved with the production of the show--Who decides what will be shown on the individual show??? Could you on your own say we're gonna do only Sportsman today or is the subject matter chosen for you??? Who actually makes the decision as to who/what is going to be the subject matter for an episode??? The production company--the shows producer or director--the NHRA???? Somebody/someone makes the decision who is it???? That is what alot of this discussion is about. I understand somewhat how TV shows work my Son in Law is involved with Fox/Showtime/ABC and has done about 25 years as an A camera operator also has done quite a bit working with Spielberg and Dreamworks as well as other studios doing feature length films and many many commercials for Bud/Buick/Ford/Chevy just to name a few as well as other major companies too... So I guess the question everbody is really asking is WHO makes the decision???

02-16-2011, 11:49 AM	#67
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,995 Likes: 68 Liked 279 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days? NHRA makes the decisions on what is shown on their coverage on National events and they have chosen to leave sportsmen out entirely. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

02-16-2011, 02:18 PM	#70
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,416 Likes: 522 Liked 330 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Why cant Sportsman Racing be like this on TV these days? Greg--that is what I'm getting at NHRA calls the shots here--Next question is who at NHRA makes the decision on what to show???? Somebody or a group of people does---who is it give us a name??? Then we can maybe talk to that person and see if why they do not promote anything other than Force aka Funny Car and a few other Pros---Probably wont do any good but at least maybe viewers could vent some frustration--FED387