Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! - Page 6

Kenny Wigington · 09-21-2010, 10:24 PM

Infra red, wildlife camera's do give you some very damning "evidence"...... They dont even know they were on Candid Camera until its too late on some ! Motion activated, and better ones are silent almost.

Doug Domm · 09-21-2010, 11:06 PM

Now that wildlife camera is good thought.

Doug Domm · 11-25-2011, 12:00 PM

Update!!!!! Just saw the obituary in the local paper this morning complete with photograph of my intruder. I'm not sure what happened to him but is very unfortunate of what happens to some of our youth's lives these days. I must say though he only represents an insignificant percent of some of the young folk I've met recently. What do you think? Is there really an improvement in the character of more of our youth today or am I just getting mellower and more accepting? Never thought I would say that!!!!

goinbroke2 · 11-25-2011, 01:19 PM

Let me guess, "in loving memory of a sweet caring young boy" Or some other such bull****. **** him, he was a criminal, the worlds better off without him.

Yeah in Canada you can only use as much force as required to protect yourself and no more. In other words, your attacked by a known "problem" that is 2" taller and 30lb's heavier, but you bust his head open and put him in the hospital for 3 months and he loses 60% of vision in one eye...they charge you with;
1) manslaughter, the same day
2) attempted manslaughter when he didn't die after all
3) reduce it to aggravated assault with intent to injure when they find out who he is
4) judge see's both of us side by side and the whole story comes out. Calls it assault and gives me 30 days of striped sunlight and him 7 days for being in front of him again.
If I defended myself I would of been OK according to the "legal experts" but since I went a little beyond, that was considered "excessive" and the reason for my charge.

So, in Canada, if they are attacking you and you defend yourself (not with a gun unless he has one too, gotta be fair to criminals right?) you can only go as far as it takes to stop them. If he runs or turns his back and you shoot him or after him, YOU will be charged.
This happened in Fredricton N.B. a few years back. A store owner robbed for the umptenth time chased the crooks out and fired a couple of shots into the van as they were excaping, HE was charged/fined for misuse of a weapon/endangering lives/blah,blah,blah.

The only good news is, just the other day I heard something about "castle laws" by the Conservative gov. Never heard what it's about and there was talk of "vigilantyism" or whatever.
Any other Canadians on here heard about it?

I personally would love to see a law where I can protect my property with any means neccessary!

Ed Carpenter · 11-25-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug Domm

Fortunately my wife got up for a glass of water early this morning and witnessed an uninvited visitor entering my shop this AM. I quickly went into property protection mode and "DETAINED" the intruder while my wife called 911. Our city's finest ( four patrol cars where there in short order) . The first officer smiled and asked, Hmmm What happened here? Enough said! My question now is. What do you have for security other than a monitored alarm? It is definately time to install something ASAP. I often times never even locked the shop because our German Shepherd did a fine job of keeping us secure however after 14 faithful years she is recently no longer with us ( boy do I miss her). Doug

I have a SIG 357,Remington 12 Gauge Shotgun and a M4 223 rifle for additional security. LOL

Darrin Christen · 11-25-2011, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by deuces wild

I have a SIG 357,Remington 12 Gauge Shotgun and a M4 223 rifle for additional security. LOL

And law enforcement on site!!lol

sammy pizzolato · 11-25-2011, 04:47 PM

i was robbed last week and did not know till wednesday afternoon when another shop owner came by and said he has tools belonging to me i went to my toolbox they were gone 700 dollars worth. he said that one of his men bought it from a crack head the day before. so sure enough i checked my video cams and there he was taking my stuff.i walked next door for 5 min.he was watching me.so i called houma's finest gave a scetch of him within 1hr he was jailed.he tried to rob jeff teutons body shop across the street from me but his guys ran him off.come to find out he hit 8 more places.when i went to the police station to talk to him i told him that he will spend thanksgiving at the ashland hilton better known as the ashland JAIL. so video cam's work and i also have alarms.

FINESPLINE · 11-25-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FED 387

I had an incident a while back and then I had a guy install an alarm system both motion detector and the doors and windows too---when the alarm does go off the guy will probably be deaf for life!!!! My alarm not only turns the lights on by both electric and battery back up but the audible sound is 120-130 DECIBLES!!!! Comp 387

I like that system plus the automatic phone service call to retrieve the password---no password , Police notified ! My house is wired like that and I sleep well.

Tom keedle · 11-25-2011, 08:09 PM

1st sound they hear around here will be "bang!" not the sound of one being chambered

btw, i asked my wife what she should say..."stop or i'll shoot" or "bang! stop or i'll shoot"...
she said the 1st and i told here that's wrong and also told her if someone is in the house uninvited, they KNOW they aren't supposed to be there....

SSGN · 11-25-2011, 09:13 PM

Any other Canadians on here heard about it?

I personally would love to see a law where I can protect my property with any means neccessary![/QUOTE]

Well in Karate our instructor said"dead man can't testify".My neighbor had his house broken into,the cop that showed up said the reason they left my house alone was my Rottweiler was on duty.Cop then asked if my dog had tags"i said go ask her"

Kevin

09-21-2010, 10:24 PM	#51
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Infra red, wildlife camera's do give you some very damning "evidence"...... They dont even know they were on Candid Camera until its too late on some ! Motion activated, and better ones are silent almost. __________________ 2894 STK

09-21-2010, 11:06 PM	#52
Doug Domm Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 251 Likes: 28 Liked 84 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Now that wildlife camera is good thought.

11-25-2011, 12:00 PM	#53
Doug Domm Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: canada Posts: 251 Likes: 28 Liked 84 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Update!!!!! Just saw the obituary in the local paper this morning complete with photograph of my intruder. I'm not sure what happened to him but is very unfortunate of what happens to some of our youth's lives these days. I must say though he only represents an insignificant percent of some of the young folk I've met recently. What do you think? Is there really an improvement in the character of more of our youth today or am I just getting mellower and more accepting? Never thought I would say that!!!!

11-25-2011, 01:19 PM	#54
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 884 Likes: 1,567 Liked 381 Times in 148 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Let me guess, "in loving memory of a sweet caring young boy" Or some other such bull**. ** him, he was a criminal, the worlds better off without him. Yeah in Canada you can only use as much force as required to protect yourself and no more. In other words, your attacked by a known "problem" that is 2" taller and 30lb's heavier, but you bust his head open and put him in the hospital for 3 months and he loses 60% of vision in one eye...they charge you with; 1) manslaughter, the same day 2) attempted manslaughter when he didn't die after all 3) reduce it to aggravated assault with intent to injure when they find out who he is 4) judge see's both of us side by side and the whole story comes out. Calls it assault and gives me 30 days of striped sunlight and him 7 days for being in front of him again. If I defended myself I would of been OK according to the "legal experts" but since I went a little beyond, that was considered "excessive" and the reason for my charge. So, in Canada, if they are attacking you and you defend yourself (not with a gun unless he has one too, gotta be fair to criminals right?) you can only go as far as it takes to stop them. If he runs or turns his back and you shoot him or after him, YOU will be charged. This happened in Fredricton N.B. a few years back. A store owner robbed for the umptenth time chased the crooks out and fired a couple of shots into the van as they were excaping, HE was charged/fined for misuse of a weapon/endangering lives/blah,blah,blah. The only good news is, just the other day I heard something about "castle laws" by the Conservative gov. Never heard what it's about and there was talk of "vigilantyism" or whatever. Any other Canadians on here heard about it? I personally would love to see a law where I can protect my property with any means neccessary!

11-25-2011, 04:47 PM	#57
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! i was robbed last week and did not know till wednesday afternoon when another shop owner came by and said he has tools belonging to me i went to my toolbox they were gone 700 dollars worth. he said that one of his men bought it from a crack head the day before. so sure enough i checked my video cams and there he was taking my stuff.i walked next door for 5 min.he was watching me.so i called houma's finest gave a scetch of him within 1hr he was jailed.he tried to rob jeff teutons body shop across the street from me but his guys ran him off.come to find out he hit 8 more places.when i went to the police station to talk to him i told him that he will spend thanksgiving at the ashland hilton better known as the ashland JAIL. so video cam's work and i also have alarms.

11-25-2011, 08:09 PM	#59
Tom keedle Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Berthoud, Coloraduh Posts: 695 Likes: 13 Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! 1st sound they hear around here will be "bang!" not the sound of one being chambered btw, i asked my wife what she should say..."stop or i'll shoot" or "bang! stop or i'll shoot"... she said the 1st and i told here that's wrong and also told her if someone is in the house uninvited, they KNOW they aren't supposed to be there....

11-25-2011, 09:13 PM	#60
SSGN Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 644 Likes: 131 Liked 140 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Had an uninvited visitor in my shop this morning! Any other Canadians on here heard about it? I personally would love to see a law where I can protect my property with any means neccessary![/QUOTE] Well in Karate our instructor said"dead man can't testify".My neighbor had his house broken into,the cop that showed up said the reason they left my house alone was my Rottweiler was on duty.Cop then asked if my dog had tags"i said go ask her" Kevin