how much do build this to a stocker?? - Page 3

scott helms · 02-23-2010, 11:45 PM

Colton, go to a div. race coming up in Nhra in your area. Find someone with your combo and do some talking. You'll probably find more info than you can rememeber and maybe some one with some spare parts cheap and role in and be competitve. Then you can build off that and be faster as time and money permit.But race Nhra, Ihra and some Assc. races good luck and have fun. (I agree with Charlie on this) and I think he know's your combo well.

Alan Warman · 02-24-2010, 12:51 AM

Colton

I think I have a Alum intake for the 305. Stop by the pits and I will give it to you.

colton vassar · 02-24-2010, 08:51 AM

sounds good...thanks Alan...i will be there on friday or saturday...i will also be at the dallas divisional in april...maybe running super street..i will be sure to try find you guys

Bob Pagano · 02-24-2010, 09:52 AM

Any gm block, its the head #s that need to be right, intake and carb but the carb number can be diff if the cfm, size of the butterflys are the same and that is listed in the blueprint spec's sheet.

Bimbo Jones · 02-24-2010, 11:14 AM

Thanks Bob, I'm the guy with the 305 parts. Y'all have all given Colton some great advice. He is a good kid and a great new driver that didn't grow up racing in a JR dragster that daddy's money built. This message board is one of my favorites because one can get some pretty decent answers to real question a Stocker newbe might have. And young stocker racers are few and far between. Although I only bracket race now I too was introduced to NHRA stock eliminator by a young man two years my senior working at a Piggly Wiggly store. He built my first 283 stocker motor in exchange for some hand lettering on his O/S wagon. That motor is still in great working order and has all the tricks allowed in the late 1970's. But with his help getting started, I've been racing ever since, and as any first generation racer knows how difficult it can be getting started in class legal racing. BTW, that racer that help me get started was the infamous "Pickles Gapp Flash" Dwight Southerland. Thanks Dwight

Bob Pagano · 02-24-2010, 11:29 AM

You are 100% right, we all had someone to show us the way. I look forward to meeting this young man at up coming races. If we do not offer help to beginners there will be no one left to race when all of us old farts pass on. Colton already has a sound start and should be ready to kick some of our butts by mid season. I wish him well.

colton vassar · 02-24-2010, 03:09 PM

If i am correct,here are some numbers i found,tell me if it looks right

head casting-14014416,20555

springs- outer w damp

cam lift- 357/390

gasket-.016

manifold-14031391

lifter-1.50 H

head cc-55.00

i may be completely lost

Bob Pagano · 02-24-2010, 03:46 PM

whitch combo, I will look now

Bob Pagano · 02-24-2010, 03:58 PM

the manifold and cam match a 305-145 but your head # dose not match, print out the 82 spec sheet and use a ruler to read the lines. Its easy to get crossed up.

Charley Downing · 02-24-2010, 06:39 PM

1982 and 1983 malibu wgns are the same. Call it a 1983 because you can both 305 combos.

There are to different 305 combos for a wgn that year.

305ci Flat top piston 253 NHRA HP fits J/SA, K/SA and L/SA
The head you want is 416
Flat top piston
403/415 cam
432 or 055 intake

Combo number two
305ci Dish piston 230 NHRA HP fits M/SA, N/SA and O/SA
Same head as combo #1
Dish piston
357/390 cam
Same intake #'s as combo #1

02-23-2010, 11:45 PM	#21
scott helms Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pierre Part,la. Posts: 253 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? Colton, go to a div. race coming up in Nhra in your area. Find someone with your combo and do some talking. You'll probably find more info than you can rememeber and maybe some one with some spare parts cheap and role in and be competitve. Then you can build off that and be faster as time and money permit.But race Nhra, Ihra and some Assc. races good luck and have fun. (I agree with Charlie on this) and I think he know's your combo well. __________________ SCOTT HELMS Stk,SS 2540

02-24-2010, 12:51 AM	#22
Alan Warman Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Angelo Tx Posts: 231 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? Colton I think I have a Alum intake for the 305. Stop by the pits and I will give it to you. __________________ Alan Warman STK 4107

02-24-2010, 08:51 AM	#23
colton vassar Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: kennedale,tx Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? sounds good...thanks Alan...i will be there on friday or saturday...i will also be at the dallas divisional in april...maybe running super street..i will be sure to try find you guys

02-24-2010, 09:52 AM	#24
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? Any gm block, its the head #s that need to be right, intake and carb but the carb number can be diff if the cfm, size of the butterflys are the same and that is listed in the blueprint spec's sheet. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

02-24-2010, 11:14 AM	#25
Bimbo Jones Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 109 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? Thanks Bob, I'm the guy with the 305 parts. Y'all have all given Colton some great advice. He is a good kid and a great new driver that didn't grow up racing in a JR dragster that daddy's money built. This message board is one of my favorites because one can get some pretty decent answers to real question a Stocker newbe might have. And young stocker racers are few and far between. Although I only bracket race now I too was introduced to NHRA stock eliminator by a young man two years my senior working at a Piggly Wiggly store. He built my first 283 stocker motor in exchange for some hand lettering on his O/S wagon. That motor is still in great working order and has all the tricks allowed in the late 1970's. But with his help getting started, I've been racing ever since, and as any first generation racer knows how difficult it can be getting started in class legal racing. BTW, that racer that help me get started was the infamous "Pickles Gapp Flash" Dwight Southerland. Thanks Dwight

02-24-2010, 11:29 AM	#26
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? You are 100% right, we all had someone to show us the way. I look forward to meeting this young man at up coming races. If we do not offer help to beginners there will be no one left to race when all of us old farts pass on. Colton already has a sound start and should be ready to kick some of our butts by mid season. I wish him well. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

02-24-2010, 03:09 PM	#27
colton vassar Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: kennedale,tx Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? If i am correct,here are some numbers i found,tell me if it looks right head casting-14014416,20555 springs- outer w damp cam lift- 357/390 gasket-.016 manifold-14031391 lifter-1.50 H head cc-55.00 i may be completely lost

02-24-2010, 03:46 PM	#28
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? whitch combo, I will look now __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

02-24-2010, 03:58 PM	#29
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 240 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? the manifold and cam match a 305-145 but your head # dose not match, print out the 82 spec sheet and use a ruler to read the lines. Its easy to get crossed up. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

02-24-2010, 06:39 PM	#30
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 761 Likes: 16 Liked 633 Times in 88 Posts	Re: how much do build this to a stocker?? 1982 and 1983 malibu wgns are the same. Call it a 1983 because you can both 305 combos. There are to different 305 combos for a wgn that year. 305ci Flat top piston 253 NHRA HP fits J/SA, K/SA and L/SA The head you want is 416 Flat top piston 403/415 cam 432 or 055 intake Combo number two 305ci Dish piston 230 NHRA HP fits M/SA, N/SA and O/SA Same head as combo #1 Dish piston 357/390 cam Same intake #'s as combo #1 __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK