Coyote blueprint specs changed

kdanner · 06-26-2019, 10:38 PM

So what's the dirt on whatever triggered this? Changes to the head casting numbers for 11-14 cars.

MPR · 06-27-2019, 10:03 AM

There's plenty of dirt! Keep asking, it will be interesting to see if you get any response from anyone. I think this should interest every Stock/Super Stock racer but it has quietly slipped thru the cracks.

Ralph A Powell · 06-27-2019, 11:33 AM

A superseded replacement?

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Originally Posted by MPR

There's plenty of dirt! Keep asking, it will be interesting to see if you get any response from anyone. I think this should interest every Stock/Super Stock racer but it has quietly slipped thru the cracks.

Whalen3186 · 06-27-2019, 03:38 PM

It seems like this combination has drawn some attention since it went -1.20 and got instant hp at a D1 race last month. Maybe Mr. Carson or his spokesperson, JDM, can shed some light on the topic?

Mike Fuller · 06-27-2019, 03:41 PM

It just got another 5 HP today

kdanner · 06-27-2019, 05:42 PM

I can only guess, but my best guess when I initially read this was that someone had entered as a 2014 but actually used heads with at least one of the differences in the 13 head which are:

1. CNC ports/chamber
2. Larger exhaust valve

Am I getting warm?

james schaechter · 06-28-2019, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Whalen3186

It seems like this combination has drawn some attention since it went -1.20 and got instant hp at a D1 race last month. Maybe Mr. Carson or his spokesperson, JDM, can shed some light on the topic?

He was never for a lack of posts before. I am sure he will weigh in.....well maybe.

MPR · 06-28-2019, 08:16 AM

Tear downs did no good because the tech dept protected one certain racer and allowed heads, pistons and other parts which were never produced or installed by the factory. We're talking about Stock where factory produced and approved components are mandated to be used by all competitors. When bogus specs get onto a TI form the person responsible should be held accountable. Keep digging and you'll be surprised. Not everyone will spend the time to look into this because they think it doesn't affect them because it's not the brand they race but how do we know if this is an isolated case? The more you look the more surprised you'd be. Even tech officials have been told to look the other way. Heads are not rare, like mentioned that's not what this is about. There's only nothing to look at here if you choose to look the other way.

06-26-2019, 10:38 PM	#1
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Coyote blueprint specs changed So what's the dirt on whatever triggered this? Changes to the head casting numbers for 11-14 cars. __________________ K Danner STK 468

06-27-2019, 10:03 AM	#2
MPR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 48 Likes: 0 Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed There's plenty of dirt! Keep asking, it will be interesting to see if you get any response from anyone. I think this should interest every Stock/Super Stock racer but it has quietly slipped thru the cracks.

06-27-2019, 03:38 PM	#4
Whalen3186 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 242 Likes: 20 Liked 109 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed It seems like this combination has drawn some attention since it went -1.20 and got instant hp at a D1 race last month. Maybe Mr. Carson or his spokesperson, JDM, can shed some light on the topic?

06-27-2019, 03:41 PM	#5
Mike Fuller Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 952 Likes: 564 Liked 198 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed It just got another 5 HP today __________________ Mike Fuller 396 STK 3961 SS

06-27-2019, 05:42 PM	#6
kdanner Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 221 Likes: 50 Liked 38 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed I can only guess, but my best guess when I initially read this was that someone had entered as a 2014 but actually used heads with at least one of the differences in the 13 head which are: 1. CNC ports/chamber 2. Larger exhaust valve Am I getting warm? __________________ K Danner STK 468 Last edited by kdanner; 06-27-2019 at 07:15 PM.

06-28-2019, 08:16 AM	#8
MPR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 48 Likes: 0 Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Coyote blueprint specs changed Tear downs did no good because the tech dept protected one certain racer and allowed heads, pistons and other parts which were never produced or installed by the factory. We're talking about Stock where factory produced and approved components are mandated to be used by all competitors. When bogus specs get onto a TI form the person responsible should be held accountable. Keep digging and you'll be surprised. Not everyone will spend the time to look into this because they think it doesn't affect them because it's not the brand they race but how do we know if this is an isolated case? The more you look the more surprised you'd be. Even tech officials have been told to look the other way. Heads are not rare, like mentioned that's not what this is about. There's only nothing to look at here if you choose to look the other way.