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Old 09-12-2017, 09:39 AM   #1
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Default S/SS Brake safety

After seeing the result of Lou Centelazzo's unfortunate crash this past weekend , Id' like to remind my S/SS friends about something I find on all too many cars I see in my shop.
Many cars ,regardless of the type of master cyl. do not have a push rod retainer or a positive brake pedal stop to prevent the pushrod from disengaging the master cyl. .
Since many cars have had the brake light switch removed there is nothing to keep the pedal from disengaging the pushrod but a small rubber retainer .
A small bracket with a stop bolt in place of the brake switch will prevent this ,just be sure to keep a small amount of clearance between the stop and pedal.
Another method that works if you have the Mopar master cyl , which most cars have is the Jerry Bickel push rod retainer kit .
This retainer is simple and will work on almost any application ,and it's only about $70 .
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:53 AM   #2
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Default Re: S/SS Brake safety

Very good point Tom. I brought this subject up more than a few times this weekend.
For anybody interested, I brought up how to make a positive stop in the "Under the Index for Under a Grand" thread.
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:57 AM   #3
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Default Re: S/SS Brake safety

Ken Etter's crash at Fontana years ago brought this issue to the forefront for a while...good thread to remind everyone.
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I've been there, done that. It is beyond a scary situation. You don't think it can happen until it does.
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Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

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Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

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Tech inspection HA HA HA HA

NHRA Tech management is trying to cut expenses, not to protect the well being of the membership...
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Old 09-16-2017, 12:14 PM   #7
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Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

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Old 09-16-2017, 12:57 PM   #8
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It could be covered in the tech inspections.

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Long ago when I did tech at a local track for a few years, it was not unusual for me to reach in and give the brake pedal a jerk up and then a push down on the Mopars. Kind of surprising that some folks are unaware of the issue and how to prevent it.
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I made a cradle that sits just under the pushrod that even if the rod tries to come out of the piston it keeps the pushrod lined up to go back in
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After seeing the result of Lou Centelazzo's unfortunate crash this past weekend , Id' like to remind my S/SS friends about something I find on all too many cars I see in my shop.
Many cars ,regardless of the type of master cyl. do not have a push rod retainer or a positive brake pedal stop to prevent the pushrod from disengaging the master cyl. .
Since many cars have had the brake light switch removed there is nothing to keep the pedal from disengaging the pushrod but a small rubber retainer .
A small bracket with a stop bolt in place of the brake switch will prevent this ,just be sure to keep a small amount of clearance between the stop and pedal.
Another method that works if you have the Mopar master cyl , which most cars have is the Jerry Bickel push rod retainer kit .
This retainer is simple and will work on almost any application ,and it's only about $70 .

i must be daft, can you explain where this goes. I am converting to a mopar mc as we speak and last thing I need is an unsafe brake system
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