I don't think we're

Billy Nees · 01-29-2016, 10:30 AM

going to get much help or attention from Mr. Clifford!

[url]http://competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/clifford's-six-step-initiative-plan-to-growing-nhra[url]

Bob Don · 01-29-2016, 10:52 AM

Billy - your link didn't work. Try this:

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...o-growing-nhra

I read the article. I didn't hear anything about sportsman racing! lol

Chris1529 · 01-29-2016, 11:09 AM

"The teams are in agreement with us, we need to find a solution for these oildowns," said Clifford. "If we can cut out the oildowns or greatly reduce them, that's crucial, and can change this sport overnight. It not only impacts those sitting in the stands but could impact our live television broadcasts. The oildowns have to stop from sportsman to professional racers."

"One of those ideas, Clifford said, includes an oil pan pressure switch aimed at shutting down the engine at abnormally high readings."

So, John Force is ahead of Del Worsham at 900' at a track. Force's oil pan pressure switch alarms and shuts down the engine. Worsham passes him to win the race and knocks Force out of the countdown to the championship.
Sounds like an excellent idea to improve reliability and competition to me.

Billy Nees · 01-29-2016, 11:29 AM

"The oildowns have to stop from sportsman to professional racers."

The only time Sportsmen were even mentioned!

Adger Smith · 01-29-2016, 12:06 PM

Don't they realize the AVG spectator comes to watch the explosions and fire. They like carnage& expect it. These guys are going to "sanitize" it so much there wont be any excitement for the Avg non technical fan. It is just like taking the bumping and wrecks out of the cup or dirt races. Remember when they (Nascar) tightened up on it and made it boring and saw their mistake. Go ahead NHRA and make it dull for those left in the stands.

Mike Pearson · 01-29-2016, 12:47 PM

it should not take as long to clean up the track as it does now. Back years ago when they used rice hull ash and a few guys on the tail gate of the pick up and a big jet blower they could clean a lane in about a third if the time it takes now. Everything seems to be in slow motion with these guys now. Sportsman dump some oil once in a while but no where near the amount of the nitro guys

CMcAllister · 01-29-2016, 12:55 PM

Stuff happens when mechanical parts and assemblies are stressed to the limit. 10,000 horsepower from a 500 inch V-8 and they don't want any parts or oil to come out of them?

They market the speed and the power. Turn on a drag race show and often the first thing you see in the opening credits is an engine blow up in a ball of fire. I don't see how you can have it both ways and I'm not in favor of "fundamentally transforming" the sport for the purpose of making it good TV for the uninformed.

NASCAR has yellow flags, we have oil downs. It's a part of sport. Things have gotten much better since the days when it would take a bunch of guys with brooms an hour and a half to clean up a mess.

Steve Stasko · 01-29-2016, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Don't they realize the AVG spectator comes to watch the explosions and fire. They like carnage& expect it. These guys are going to "sanitize" it so much there wont be any excitement for the Avg non technical fan. It is just like taking the bumping and wrecks out of the cup or dirt races. Remember when they (Nascar) tightened up on it and made it boring and saw their mistake. Go ahead NHRA and make it dull for those left in the stands.

A co-worker (who normally goes to Sprint Car races) asked me how often drag cars crash. He very openly admitted that the part he enjoyed most about dirt track racing was watching the wrecks. He wanted to go to Maple Grove to the Nationals with me this past year, but when I told him the likelihood of crashes was few and far, he lost interest.

As far as the Clifford article, It appears to me Mr. Clifford is going to turn the NHRA into a circus show like IHRA was turned into. If he is worried about participation numbers, maybe it's time to start putting some restrictions back into the classes. While numbers have remained the same in some classes, there are still many cars across the country that are parked because of the rule advancements.

01-29-2016, 10:30 AM	#1
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,496 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,754 Times in 1,741 Posts	I don't think we're going to get much help or attention from Mr. Clifford! [url]http://competitionplus.com/drag-racing/news/clifford's-six-step-initiative-plan-to-growing-nhra[url] __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K Last edited by Billy Nees; 01-29-2016 at 10:36 AM.

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Bob Don VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,496 Likes: 1,131 Liked 902 Times in 192 Posts	Re: I don't think we're Billy - your link didn't work. Try this: http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...o-growing-nhra I read the article. I didn't hear anything about sportsman racing! lol __________________ Bob Don 128 SS

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Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: I don't think we're "The teams are in agreement with us, we need to find a solution for these oildowns," said Clifford. "If we can cut out the oildowns or greatly reduce them, that's crucial, and can change this sport overnight. It not only impacts those sitting in the stands but could impact our live television broadcasts. The oildowns have to stop from sportsman to professional racers." "One of those ideas, Clifford said, includes an oil pan pressure switch aimed at shutting down the engine at abnormally high readings." So, John Force is ahead of Del Worsham at 900' at a track. Force's oil pan pressure switch alarms and shuts down the engine. Worsham passes him to win the race and knocks Force out of the countdown to the championship. Sounds like an excellent idea to improve reliability and competition to me. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

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Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,496 Likes: 3,600 Liked 7,754 Times in 1,741 Posts	Re: I don't think we're "The oildowns have to stop from sportsman to professional racers." The only time Sportsmen were even mentioned! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

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Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,446 Likes: 575 Liked 880 Times in 311 Posts	Re: I don't think we're Don't they realize the AVG spectator comes to watch the explosions and fire. They like carnage& expect it. These guys are going to "sanitize" it so much there wont be any excitement for the Avg non technical fan. It is just like taking the bumping and wrecks out of the cup or dirt races. Remember when they (Nascar) tightened up on it and made it boring and saw their mistake. Go ahead NHRA and make it dull for those left in the stands. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

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Mike Pearson VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,451 Likes: 615 Liked 1,935 Times in 582 Posts	Re: I don't think we're it should not take as long to clean up the track as it does now. Back years ago when they used rice hull ash and a few guys on the tail gate of the pick up and a big jet blower they could clean a lane in about a third if the time it takes now. Everything seems to be in slow motion with these guys now. Sportsman dump some oil once in a while but no where near the amount of the nitro guys __________________ Mike Pearson 2485 SS

01-29-2016, 12:55 PM	#7
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 615 Likes: 16 Liked 920 Times in 259 Posts	Re: I don't think we're Stuff happens when mechanical parts and assemblies are stressed to the limit. 10,000 horsepower from a 500 inch V-8 and they don't want any parts or oil to come out of them? They market the speed and the power. Turn on a drag race show and often the first thing you see in the opening credits is an engine blow up in a ball of fire. I don't see how you can have it both ways and I'm not in favor of "fundamentally transforming" the sport for the purpose of making it good TV for the uninformed. NASCAR has yellow flags, we have oil downs. It's a part of sport. Things have gotten much better since the days when it would take a bunch of guys with brooms an hour and a half to clean up a mess.