V/S Stick "Dime Rocket"

impstocker · 02-07-2015, 10:49 PM

For Discussion. How about a straight six Nova, Chevelle, Dart or a V6 Malibu with a stick. Using a Saginaw 4 speed with that low first 3:08 gear. How about using a 3 Speed? Toploader 3 speed. Probaly cheaper than Automatic and trying to go cheap on the converter. Not making enough power to really break anything. Using a heavy flywheel which are cheaper would be what you would want anyway. Do you have to run a scattershield in V/S ?

Just put this up for discussion or maybe?

Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress.

Billy Nees · 02-08-2015, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by impstocker

For Discussion. How about a straight six Nova, Chevelle, Dart or a V6 Malibu with a stick. Using a Saginaw 4 speed with that low first 3:08 gear. How about using a 3 Speed? Toploader 3 speed. Probaly cheaper than Automatic and trying to go cheap on the converter. Not making enough power to really break anything. Using a heavy flywheel which are cheaper would be what you would want anyway. Do you have to run a scattershield in V/S ?

Just put this up for discussion or maybe?

Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress.

I wish that I had a "dime" for every time I thought about a stick in one of my Novas. V6 Malibu or Buick would be the way to go. I'd spend the time and money and find an old, outdated (by todays standards) DN ST-10 and be done with it. Heavy flywheel and stock bellhousing? Surprisingly, you DON'T need a shield in V. What are your legs worth? Find an old Lakewood that won't cert.

james schaechter · 02-08-2015, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I wish that I had a "dime" for every time I thought about a stick in one of my Novas. V6 Malibu or Buick would be the way to go. I'd spend the time and money and find an old, outdated (by todays standards) DN ST-10 and be done with it. Heavy flywheel and stock bellhousing? Surprisingly, you DON'T need a shield in V. What are your legs worth? Find an old Lakewood that won't cert.

And don't overlook some older narrow gear Jerico four speeds. Most don't use them as front line pieces since they have narrower 3-4 gears, but when they are for sale, they can be had at a reasonable price. No way you would break it even if you trimmed the gears even more. I agree, plenty of scatter shields under benches and at swap meets that won't tag.

Mark Yacavone · 02-08-2015, 01:47 PM

RWD stick car...Your dime will grow to a quarter in a hurry.
Better find a used spool and axles or super trick clutch.
Today's tires and tracks will break stock axles and posi's .

MYRONARL1119 · 02-08-2015, 02:13 PM

Guys we actually ran a Nova back in the day with 4.56 gears, a short like 27-28" tall tire and a 2.88 first gear super t10. This was back before the current radical stocker regrinds but with a 194 c.i. 6 cyl (.040 over) and a good head we ran low to mid 15s. Ran way under in the 1/8 th mile so we ran that mostly. If I recall correctly we weighed 2880#. If I were to do this today, I would use an aluminum flywheel, at least a 4.88 gear and would use a Nash 5 speed with 5th gear blocked so as to run as a 4 speed. By using this type of transmission it is easier to "underdrive first gear" so you can run a 3 something first gear. Believe this combo would still work....But if you want to run a totally unique Chevy combo, run the Chevy II with the 4 cyl instead of the in line 6.

Billy Nees · 02-08-2015, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MYRONARL1119

..But if you want to run a totally unique Chevy combo, run the Chevy II with the 4 cyl instead of the in line 6.

I've always thought that a 4 cyl Chevy II could be a good combo. Same size carb as my 230. Two downsides, find a clean early Chevy II 100 2 door sedan and then get it light enough.
2330 with driver. OBTW, you would want to do a 63-64. They have the big cam.

james schaechter · 02-08-2015, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

RWD stick car...Your dime will grow to a quarter in a hurry.
Better find a used spool and axles or super trick clutch.
Today's tires and tracks will break stock axles and posi's .

I would try radials...

Mark Yacavone · 02-08-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by james schaechter

I would try radials...

Jim, Have you ever tried radials on a stick car?
I have, and it wasn't pretty.

impstocker · 02-08-2015, 11:25 PM

I looked it seems like that 4 Cylinder Camaro was a one year only deal in 1985. Jeez pretty rare. I know he still has all the pieces.
HMM

One racecar at a time. Help.
Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress.

1985 Camaro W/S in future?

impstocker · 02-08-2015, 11:28 PM

For that 7.5" rear what is the lowest gear you can get? 4:56 Probaly need more gear for a stick shift though. Wheels are turning. I know he still has motor plus might have had machine work done on block. He just built a Comp car B/SR he is busy with though.

Will Lamprecht

02-07-2015, 10:49 PM	#1
impstocker Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wingdale, NY Posts: 302 Likes: 27 Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts	V/S Stick "Dime Rocket" For Discussion. How about a straight six Nova, Chevelle, Dart or a V6 Malibu with a stick. Using a Saginaw 4 speed with that low first 3:08 gear. How about using a 3 Speed? Toploader 3 speed. Probaly cheaper than Automatic and trying to go cheap on the converter. Not making enough power to really break anything. Using a heavy flywheel which are cheaper would be what you would want anyway. Do you have to run a scattershield in V/S ? Just put this up for discussion or maybe? Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress.

02-08-2015, 01:47 PM	#4
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,809 Likes: 2,899 Liked 5,113 Times in 1,948 Posts	Re: V/S Stick "Dime Rocket" RWD stick car...Your dime will grow to a quarter in a hurry. Better find a used spool and axles or super trick clutch. Today's tires and tracks will break stock axles and posi's . __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

02-08-2015, 02:13 PM	#5
MYRONARL1119 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: COLUMBUS,OHIO Posts: 59 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: V/S Stick "Dime Rocket" Guys we actually ran a Nova back in the day with 4.56 gears, a short like 27-28" tall tire and a 2.88 first gear super t10. This was back before the current radical stocker regrinds but with a 194 c.i. 6 cyl (.040 over) and a good head we ran low to mid 15s. Ran way under in the 1/8 th mile so we ran that mostly. If I recall correctly we weighed 2880#. If I were to do this today, I would use an aluminum flywheel, at least a 4.88 gear and would use a Nash 5 speed with 5th gear blocked so as to run as a 4 speed. By using this type of transmission it is easier to "underdrive first gear" so you can run a 3 something first gear. Believe this combo would still work....But if you want to run a totally unique Chevy combo, run the Chevy II with the 4 cyl instead of the in line 6.

02-08-2015, 11:25 PM	#9
impstocker Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wingdale, NY Posts: 302 Likes: 27 Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts	Re: V/S Stick "Dime Rocket" I looked it seems like that 4 Cylinder Camaro was a one year only deal in 1985. Jeez pretty rare. I know he still has all the pieces. HMM One racecar at a time. Help. Will Lamprecht I/SA 65 Impala in progress. 1985 Camaro W/S in future?

02-08-2015, 11:28 PM	#10
impstocker Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Wingdale, NY Posts: 302 Likes: 27 Liked 53 Times in 16 Posts	Re: V/S Stick "Dime Rocket" For that 7.5" rear what is the lowest gear you can get? 4:56 Probaly need more gear for a stick shift though. Wheels are turning. I know he still has motor plus might have had machine work done on block. He just built a Comp car B/SR he is busy with though. Will Lamprecht