2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend

Another Friendly Racer · 08-05-2014, 10:33 AM

Why are there not more two races in one big four day weekend events in the NHRA sportsman series? Do individual tracks make so much money hosting LODRS events that they don't want to give them up? I would think the racers would like the 2 for 1 deal, much less traveling, but maybe I am wrong? I'm well aware IHRA does this, but I'm talking strictly NHRA. I know car counts are big but you also have 4 days. What are the thoughts out there?

FireSale · 08-05-2014, 11:17 AM

Long weekend events are expensive with lodging and time off work if the racers can get it. Sportsman guys and gals actually work for their gas money. Even the North West Nationals didn't pull that many out of State cars.

There's a Divisional/Regional three day coming up at Pacific Raceways. We'll see how many D7 cars show for the points beyond the alky classes.

Dale

Rich67stang · 08-05-2014, 01:48 PM

It can be done, And every excuse has an answer/solution. Lets use Atco as an example, most racers entered Thursday ( even Wednesday afternoon!). So the lodging cost is a wash. 3 Time trials is not necessary, if you need to test, support your local association races to test. If you cannot get off work, just enter the second day race only. I like the next excuse...TOO MANY CARS!...if Big $ bracket races can run 4 races in 1 weekend with 300-400 cars, I think NHRA can finish 2, and I know the NHRA DIV 1 officials can move an event along. If NHRA set a course for the weekend schedule, I would not have to here the announcer call "Stock (or any other class) to the lanes please" for 20 minutes.

Rollins_2241 · 08-05-2014, 02:20 PM

Division 2 does exactly this at least once each year at Commerce. In fact, I'd like to see three-day doubles - there is actually some down time at a four-day race.

Also, Rich allows member tracks to do Sportsman Shootouts and track-operated races that give the racer two chances to win in one weekend, even if only one is a Lucas event. These are very popular at SGMP the week before the Gatornationals, for example. Of course, in all these cases, weather has to reasonably cooperate - without any down time in the schedule, qualifying or the local track's race must be cut short if it rains much.

James Perrone · 08-05-2014, 04:10 PM

They did it about 5 years ago at Maple Grove..Had over 128 cars in STOCK..Cant figure out why they never did it again.Makes too much sense to have a 2 for 1 race weekend..

Bill Grubbs · 08-05-2014, 04:33 PM

I would love to see more double divisional events...just not in the division we claim.

If it is an in division double and you have a problem in race one are out both claims for points (division and Jeg's). If you are well enough off, have an extra engine, transmission, ignition, rear end, axle, etc...plus the time to diagnose and fix the problem you are out only one claim. However, most people do not have that luxury.

Like I said, I do like it for out of division claims.

08-05-2014, 10:33 AM	#1
Another Friendly Racer Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 152 Likes: 0 Liked 19 Times in 6 Posts	2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend Why are there not more two races in one big four day weekend events in the NHRA sportsman series? Do individual tracks make so much money hosting LODRS events that they don't want to give them up? I would think the racers would like the 2 for 1 deal, much less traveling, but maybe I am wrong? I'm well aware IHRA does this, but I'm talking strictly NHRA. I know car counts are big but you also have 4 days. What are the thoughts out there?

08-05-2014, 11:17 AM	#2
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: 2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend Long weekend events are expensive with lodging and time off work if the racers can get it. Sportsman guys and gals actually work for their gas money. Even the North West Nationals didn't pull that many out of State cars. There's a Divisional/Regional three day coming up at Pacific Raceways. We'll see how many D7 cars show for the points beyond the alky classes. Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

08-05-2014, 01:48 PM	#3
Rich67stang Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Jackson, NJ Posts: 313 Likes: 3 Liked 116 Times in 27 Posts	Re: 2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend It can be done, And every excuse has an answer/solution. Lets use Atco as an example, most racers entered Thursday ( even Wednesday afternoon!). So the lodging cost is a wash. 3 Time trials is not necessary, if you need to test, support your local association races to test. If you cannot get off work, just enter the second day race only. I like the next excuse...TOO MANY CARS!...if Big $ bracket races can run 4 races in 1 weekend with 300-400 cars, I think NHRA can finish 2, and I know the NHRA DIV 1 officials can move an event along. If NHRA set a course for the weekend schedule, I would not have to here the announcer call "Stock (or any other class) to the lanes please" for 20 minutes. __________________ Richard Preiser 1613 FGT/I 1510 C/SA 161 F/DA

08-05-2014, 02:20 PM	#4
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend Division 2 does exactly this at least once each year at Commerce. In fact, I'd like to see three-day doubles - there is actually some down time at a four-day race. Also, Rich allows member tracks to do Sportsman Shootouts and track-operated races that give the racer two chances to win in one weekend, even if only one is a Lucas event. These are very popular at SGMP the week before the Gatornationals, for example. Of course, in all these cases, weather has to reasonably cooperate - without any down time in the schedule, qualifying or the local track's race must be cut short if it rains much.

08-05-2014, 04:10 PM	#5
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,676 Likes: 3,381 Liked 1,821 Times in 425 Posts	Re: 2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend They did it about 5 years ago at Maple Grove..Had over 128 cars in STOCK..Cant figure out why they never did it again.Makes too much sense to have a 2 for 1 race weekend.. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

08-05-2014, 04:33 PM	#6
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: 2 NHRA LODRS Events in 1 Weekend I would love to see more double divisional events...just not in the division we claim. If it is an in division double and you have a problem in race one are out both claims for points (division and Jeg's). If you are well enough off, have an extra engine, transmission, ignition, rear end, axle, etc...plus the time to diagnose and fix the problem you are out only one claim. However, most people do not have that luxury. Like I said, I do like it for out of division claims.