Junior Stock vs IHRA Pure Stock

[Dan Fahey]

Been trying to get an answer.

What is the difference between these classes?

Dan

[ALMACK]

Good question.

Since Jr. Stock was before my time, I would be interested to hear the similarities (or differences) as well.

Just saw this thread:

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=44410

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by ALMACK

Good question.

Since Jr. Stock was before my time, I would be interested to hear the similarities (or differences) as well.

Just saw this thread:

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=44410

The reason being ..

I think IHRA has a marketing opportunity here.

With Stock being a Camshaft/Valve Trane away from being Super Stock.
The complaints have been rampant regarding the expense for gasoline, seats, roll bars, seat belts and even the helment requirements.

I remember post Junior Stock all the tracks had weekly Stock and Super Stock racing before Bracket Racing became the rage.

Think this is an opportunity to recruit the new bread of cars with Junior Stock of old. I know many of the cars are out there and serviceable enough to bring back to life.

Considering all the new aftermarket body parts available and the rise of restoration shops all over the nation.

Pure Stock a good class and renaming Junior Stock should bring benefits.
Yet still using the existing Pure Stocker rules.

Renaming it Junior Stock would revive the nostalgia for the class and bring the past and future together.

FWIW PS is a more fun class than Stock as your anore stressing the platforms as much.

How many Stockers today can you put back into Street Condition without a major overhaul?

But another advantage you can move a Stocker into Junior Stock using the less expensive Pure Stocker Valve Trane.

Tech Inspection would be less time consuming.

Except maybe the Camshaft requirement.
This could be solved by having the Cam Builders Certify their cams are Junior Stock Legal.

IHRA ..think about reviving Junior Stock !!

Think you will get a lot of converts..

Dan Fahey

[Ed Wright]

Just what is needed. More classes. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[442OLDS]

I would be surprised if IHRA doesn't combine Stock and Super Stock together pretty soon.

Adding another class seems unlikely.The car counts are just not there.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by 442OLDS

I would be surprised if IHRA doesn't combine Stock and Super Stock together pretty soon.

Adding another class seems unlikely.The car counts are just not there.

I agree. I would not be surprised at all.

[Hemi Moose]

Here's a pic of an old Supercharged Ford from the early 70's...seems like it's deja vu doesn't it.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

The reason being ..

I think IHRA has a marketing opportunity here.

With Stock being a Camshaft/Valve Trane away from being Super Stock.
The complaints have been rampant regarding the expense for gasoline, seats, roll bars, seat belts and even the helment requirements.

I remember post Junior Stock all the tracks had weekly Stock and Super Stock racing before Bracket Racing became the rage.

Think this is an opportunity to recruit the new bread of cars with Junior Stock of old. I know many of the cars are out there and serviceable enough to bring back to life.

Considering all the new aftermarket body parts available and the rise of restoration shops all over the nation.

Pure Stock a good class and renaming Junior Stock should bring benefits.
Yet still using the existing Pure Stocker rules.

Renaming it Junior Stock would revive the nostalgia for the class and bring the past and future together.

FWIW PS is a more fun class than Stock as your anore stressing the platforms as much.

How many Stockers today can you put back into Street Condition without a major overhaul?

But another advantage you can move a Stocker into Junior Stock using the less expensive Pure Stocker Valve Trane.

Tech Inspection would be less time consuming.

Except maybe the Camshaft requirement.
This could be solved by having the Cam Builders Certify their cams are Junior Stock Legal.

IHRA ..think about reviving Junior Stock !!

Think you will get a lot of converts..

Dan Fahey

LOL............Now that is funny ! Especially the less tech time consuming part. Most tech specs printed since 1990 do NOT even have duration and overlap cam specs along with valve spring pressures. Checking spring pressures is time consuming. Ed Wright and 442 Olds are correct. In time it will all be combined and I would NOT be surprised to see NHRA combine the two either. Stock is wilder than S/S was just 10 years ago and getting worse. You cannot go to a local drag strip and race stock, S/S or anything close unless the is a local circuit race anymore. Other than circuits, points races, opens, national events where can you go ? Racing every weekend and staying close to home was one of the attractions. With a good car and better driving you could become a local hero to car "Nuts" in your area. A decent purse vs expense was part of it and very important. Its become a game for those who love to spend money or forever be in debt. The car culture socity is almost non existant. Todays youth is into s**t boxes with a fart can mufflers. The Jr. stocks of yesterday and the rivalry between brands, the left and right coast, "Grumps Group" and the "Valley Boys" is old history. As much as I loved that era of drag racing and Jr. stockers Im afraid its gone for good. Things change and we cant go back. If im wrong I would start on mine today. Todays racing association (IHRA & NHRA) are concerned with putting on a circus act. They dont care about the little guys at all except for filler for the fuel cars and what they can get out of their pockets. The purse is lousy at best for what you put into you equipment. Travel has become a very expensive deal. How many can afford toter homes, 40 ft motor homes and stacker trailers these days plus have the room at most race tracks for all the support equipment. Does anyone go today and not have a golf cart to ride around in all day? Its all about "One upsmanship" and ego. Where have all the guys and gals gone that used to squeeze the last drop of performance from their car. Today is about changing the rules for a better advantage. Not working on your stuff. Even the factory has done it for you these days. Just look at the $100,000 plus so called stockers of today. 8 second "Stockers" with blowers.......makes me puke ! Its nice to dream but I wouldnt hold my breath for very long.

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

LOL............Now that is funny ! Especially the less tech time consuming part. Most tech specs printed since 1990 do NOT even have duration and overlap cam specs along with valve spring pressures. Checking spring pressures is time consuming. Ed Wright and 442 Olds are correct. In time it will all be combined and I would be surprised to see NHRA combine the two. Stock is wilder than S/S was just 10 years ago and getting worse. You cannot go to a local drag strip and race stock, S/S or anything close unless the is a local circuit race anymore. Other than circuits, points races, opens, national events where can you go ? Racing every weekend and staying close to home was one of the attractions. A decent purse vs expense was part of it. The car culture socity is almost non existant. Todays youth is into s**t boxes with a fart can mufflers. The Jr. stocks of yesterday and the rivalry between brands, the left and right coast, "Grumps Group" and the "Valley Boys" is old history. As much as I loved that era and Jr. stockers Im afraid its gone for good. Things change and we cant go back. If im wromg I would start on mine today.

hey stranger , you coming to PRI next week ?

[Dan Fahey]

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