A short continuation of my "VENT" before Indy !!

[louie conkey]

I had my petition at Indy and got quite a few signatures on it. I will bring it to the JEG’s race in Columbus as due to the shortened Indy event I didn’t get to some racers who wanted to sign it. Now some people on this site are talking about combining stick and automatic classes into one. It still is wrong. I’m sure it will happen soon, if we don’t make our voices heard. Free Speech you know.

If NHRA continues the “Combo” run-off, I think it should be off a dial-in not off the indexes. See the Combo Race at Indy, where in the automatic class a truck ran at 1.55 under the index and in the stick class a J/S was a second under. Other cars had no chance to run against them unless they would break or red light. (I know that’s the case in any match-up but Really!)

Find me in Columbus or I can find you to sign my petition in an attempt to be heard to stop the way NHRA is insisting on doing this “COMBO” RACE.

[Harry 6674]

Sounds like another attempt to water down a performanced based eliminator. Just move your car up or down to a class that has another car if possible. Combo problem solved.

[Tony Janes]

Originally Posted by Harry 6674

Sounds like another attempt to water down a performanced based eliminator. Just move your car up or down to a class that has another car if possible. Combo problem solved.

About 85% of races in super stock and stock are dial ins. I fail to see the performance factor in that.

[Sean Gaffney]

I don't know if this is a stupid question but why did they go away from running the eliminator off national records and began with indexes ect...? Was the sport becoming too expensive to run like that and the same guys won all the time or was a drastic change needed to bring more racers into this sport at the time? i think that must to been great to race like that back then because not only did you have to be a class racer to win class but the eliminator also, wouldnt it be great if we didnt need to dial in again!! I don't know if this is the appropriate thread to have this on but everyone seems to be in favor of stock and super stock being a performance based class so my question to you all is why are we bracket racing our expensive race cars for next to no money in purses and half the wally's now due to combining singles i personally think stock and super stock needs a complete makeover to maybe go back to the grass roots of the classes that obvioustly made so many of you happy back then as i doubt this much complaining went on back then. I know that the new cars would be hard to beat if we went off record runs but through proper research and factoring in this makeover they would be in the right classes from the beginning its just a matter of NHRA willing to go that extra mile for us as a whole, make things right again and see the car counts exceed the their expectations, all i know is that changing back to the way things used to be can't be any worse than it is now.

[Harry 6674]

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

About 85% of races in super stock and stock are dial ins. I fail to see the performance factor in that.

Aren't we talking about racing for class?

[novassdude]

In no way should class ever be a dial in. Don't matter if they are a combo or not.

[D.Johns]

Run everything off index heads up. Lol. Even though I like that idea costs would really skyrocket then and that's mostly everyone's biggest complaint is costs.

[Pedigo Perf]

Originally Posted by D.Johns

Run everything off index heads up. Lol. Even though I like that idea costs would really skyrocket then and that's mostly everyone's biggest complaint is costs.

It doesn't cost anything to NOT WIN class. You pay the same to race if there is class or not.

[Lew Silverman]

It would be nice to be able to run "heads-up" in every class. And it would be nice to be able to run against the index during eliminations. But until we figure out a way to accurately and realistically factor all the possible combinations in the Classification Guide, what's the point? How long do we have to wait for the AHFS to bring us to parity? How long would you continue to race if you continually got beat by the same combination?

If this is supposed to be a performance based eliminator, that's fine. If you can legitimately run 1-second or more under your class index without having a unfair horsepower advantage, more power to you. (Pun intended!)

Lew

[art leong]

Originally Posted by louie conkey

I had my petition at Indy and got quite a few signatures on it. I will bring it to the JEG’s race in Columbus as due to the shortened Indy event I didn’t get to some racers who wanted to sign it. Now some people on this site are talking about combining stick and automatic classes into one. It still is wrong. I’m sure it will happen soon, if we don’t make our voices heard. Free Speech you know.

If NHRA continues the “Combo” run-off, I think it should be off a dial-in not off the indexes. See the Combo Race at Indy, where in the automatic class a truck ran at 1.55 under the index and in the stick class a J/S was a second under. Other cars had no chance to run against them unless they would break or red light. (I know that’s the case in any match-up but Really!)

Find me in Columbus or I can find you to sign my petition in an attempt to be heard to stop the way NHRA is insisting on doing this “COMBO” RACE.

I didn't like being called a "cry baby" so I really don't want to use that term.
But If you want combo to run off of dial ins. Thats exactly what it is. The truck was not in the combo class.
I suggest you do some serious bracket racing (level playing field). And leave class racing to others.
Just My Opinion.