Another problem for NHRA

stefan callender · 08-09-2012, 09:28 PM

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Ed Fernandez · 08-09-2012, 09:41 PM

I love Larry Morgan.................Just remember "You can't fix stupid".

Jeff Teuton · 08-09-2012, 10:00 PM

Anybody going, the section of DOT regulation manual that will help you if your rig is titled personally is 390 (f) (3). That is an exemption from DOT for personally owned vehicles towing race cars (as well as boats, horse trailers etc) Also all states have no weight for motor homes. The fact that you might (good luck) winning money is covered in 390(f)(3) and it is allowed. If your rig is titled in a company name (ABC Inc or John Doe Racing), you could have trouble. Dot weight regulations start at 10000 lbs so a pickup with a trailer is under that. If your license weight covers your truck and trailer weight, you are probably ok. This is really a crappy deal. If the officer asks if you are racing for money, your answer is any hobby money I win is claimd on a 1099 from the racing organization or facility and you do not claim any expenses for racing on your federal tax return. You are not required to have your federal tax return in your possession. Keep in mind, most enforcement officers do not have a clue what they are enforcing. They have these questions to trip you up. If you are driving someone eles's rig, and you are asked if you get paid for that, your answer is no. Last time I helped someone in N. Caroline, I wrote the Governor about this crap, and you know, it went away. Who is the Governor of Minnesota anyway. I am a good letter writer.

James Perrone · 08-10-2012, 08:41 AM

NHRA....Not... Helping..... Racers ...At All..
Larry Morgan tell them how you really feel !!

Mike Taylor 3601 · 08-10-2012, 08:43 AM

I liked when NHRA guy said he thought it was going to be more like educational thing on what racers need to be compliant, I'm sure it will be VERY educational,you learn things real fast when you're the one that has to pay.
DOT usausally educates with fines,you fix that problem,then next DOT says that not legal heres your ticket,call in see if you can find what is legal,shuffled on phone,explain story X# times and most likely never get answer of what is legal,and that is just for one state.
If it was only to help that would be fine,but I doubt it is going to be the friendly little get together of do this or that and have nice day,I'm thinking do this or that and heres your ticket,have a nice day will be how it goes.
Mike Taylor 3601

Casey Miles · 08-10-2012, 08:55 AM

If you think about it, the NHRA is like the circus coming in to town with an abundant amount of money, The DOT looks at it like it's a cash cow. Easy money! Most of the racers would just pay the fines and go on their way, no court or appearences needed.
Instead, the DOT should be meeting the racers and giving them escorted parade going into the track, then all would be winners. Everyone would look favorably at the DOT and show that the racers are on a pedistal to the public.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock

denbreeden · 08-10-2012, 09:01 AM

Minnesota has been going after trucks for years trying to bring in more revenue. They lost a court battle last year and are now trying another tactic.

http://www.truckinginfo.com/news/new..._category_id=3

Bottom line: Education costs money! Wonder how much their classes cost?

Dennis Breeden

08-09-2012, 09:28 PM	#1
stefan callender Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: zoo york Posts: 572 Likes: 3 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Another problem for NHRA http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...ed-to-brainerd

08-09-2012, 09:41 PM	#2
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Another problem for NHRA I love Larry Morgan.................Just remember "You can't fix stupid". __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

08-09-2012, 10:00 PM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Another problem for NHRA Anybody going, the section of DOT regulation manual that will help you if your rig is titled personally is 390 (f) (3). That is an exemption from DOT for personally owned vehicles towing race cars (as well as boats, horse trailers etc) Also all states have no weight for motor homes. The fact that you might (good luck) winning money is covered in 390(f)(3) and it is allowed. If your rig is titled in a company name (ABC Inc or John Doe Racing), you could have trouble. Dot weight regulations start at 10000 lbs so a pickup with a trailer is under that. If your license weight covers your truck and trailer weight, you are probably ok. This is really a crappy deal. If the officer asks if you are racing for money, your answer is any hobby money I win is claimd on a 1099 from the racing organization or facility and you do not claim any expenses for racing on your federal tax return. You are not required to have your federal tax return in your possession. Keep in mind, most enforcement officers do not have a clue what they are enforcing. They have these questions to trip you up. If you are driving someone eles's rig, and you are asked if you get paid for that, your answer is no. Last time I helped someone in N. Caroline, I wrote the Governor about this crap, and you know, it went away. Who is the Governor of Minnesota anyway. I am a good letter writer. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

08-10-2012, 08:41 AM	#4
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,677 Likes: 3,381 Liked 1,824 Times in 426 Posts	Re: Another problem for NHRA NHRA....Not... Helping..... Racers ...At All.. Larry Morgan tell them how you really feel !! __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

08-10-2012, 08:43 AM	#5
Mike Taylor 3601 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somerset,Ky Posts: 1,372 Likes: 354 Liked 307 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Another problem for NHRA I liked when NHRA guy said he thought it was going to be more like educational thing on what racers need to be compliant, I'm sure it will be VERY educational,you learn things real fast when you're the one that has to pay. DOT usausally educates with fines,you fix that problem,then next DOT says that not legal heres your ticket,call in see if you can find what is legal,shuffled on phone,explain story X# times and most likely never get answer of what is legal,and that is just for one state. If it was only to help that would be fine,but I doubt it is going to be the friendly little get together of do this or that and have nice day,I'm thinking do this or that and heres your ticket,have a nice day will be how it goes. Mike Taylor 3601

08-10-2012, 08:55 AM	#6
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 705 Likes: 128 Liked 502 Times in 91 Posts	Re: Another problem for NHRA If you think about it, the NHRA is like the circus coming in to town with an abundant amount of money, The DOT looks at it like it's a cash cow. Easy money! Most of the racers would just pay the fines and go on their way, no court or appearences needed. Instead, the DOT should be meeting the racers and giving them escorted parade going into the track, then all would be winners. Everyone would look favorably at the DOT and show that the racers are on a pedistal to the public. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock

08-10-2012, 09:01 AM	#7
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 501 Likes: 147 Liked 61 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Another problem for NHRA Minnesota has been going after trucks for years trying to bring in more revenue. They lost a court battle last year and are now trying another tactic. http://www.truckinginfo.com/news/new..._category_id=3 Bottom line: Education costs money! Wonder how much their classes cost? Dennis Breeden