"Lollygaggers"

Julie Jordan · 04-10-2010, 10:37 AM

Quote from DRC this morning in regards to SS eliminations:

"8:09 a.m. The drivers are lollygagging, everybody wants to run last...they've known for two days they were scheduled to run at 8 a.m. today."

In my opinion, if the officials would close the back of the staging lanes down after a prescribed time period, they wouldn't have these problems!!

Off my soapbox and back to tax returns...5 more days!

Nitro Joe Jackson · 04-10-2010, 10:40 AM

trust me I want to so bad bring a chain with me and close the back of the lanes, these guys ever run the Buckeye race i might call SS/Stk to the lanes a hour early to wait and when these guys pull into lanes they go on up front and out first, lol

Bernie Cunningham · 04-10-2010, 01:03 PM

I think you two have it all wrong !!

They're IN the lanes, probably already paired and just don't want to go up first, a completely different problem.

Who are these REPORTERS trying to be Police !?????

Andys dad · 04-10-2010, 07:32 PM

Randomly pick the first three pairs (like they have done at some races)

And

Close the back of the lanes after the first pair leaves the starting line.

And

The first time they run out of cars in the "water box" - the round is over.

Do it once and it will fix itself.

Jeff Lee · 04-10-2010, 08:13 PM

Agree...close the lanes on 1st pair in the water box. Period. No if's ands or but's.
We all know why they do it. It's race time!

Chris "drooze" Wertman · 04-10-2010, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lee

Agree...close the lanes on 1st pair in the water box. Period. No if's ands or but's.
We all know why they do it. It's race time!

Ok....I dont please explain....

Don Kennedy · 04-10-2010, 08:46 PM

The problem should be solved by NHRA by Now.

They call the racers to the lanes but the touring pros and others , (Just about everyone knows who they are) want to control when they come to the lanes cause they are busy waiting for info to help them decided or what ever they do ??? . I really don't care when they show up cause if NHRA calls me to the lanes and after a reasonable amount of waiting I am going to the Line . it is not my fault that they are not there ,

Now after saying this I wonder what would happen to the person Sandbagging ???? Interesting ?? would NHRA disqualify them ??? hey NHRA said come to the lanes so I am going to do what NHRA says not want a sandbagger is doing ??

Rick Carlson · 04-10-2010, 08:29 PM

A couple of questions about this....

1) When we posted the first three pair, there would be one or two of these first six cars who waited and showed up last. Therefore holding up the entire session. What time limit should be given?

)How do you answer the racer who always shows up early in a session and wants to run early...when his opponent for the round waits 'til the very end. Why is is "OK" for the late racer to control the pairing? One wants to run early, one wants to run late...but the "late" arriver is in control. The early racer wants to know why we allow it?

I don't know what the proper answer is for either question. The usual answer is to just shrug the shoulders, and say there's nothing I can do about it. I'm interested in your answers as racers are split about 50-50 on this. Just consider me an interested spectator with a with a pretty good cheap seat to watch the races from.

Andys dad · 04-10-2010, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Carlson

A couple of questions about this....

1) When we posted the first three pair, there would be one or two of these first six cars who waited and showed up last. Therefore holding up the entire session. What time limit should be given?

)How do you answer the racer who always shows up early in a session and wants to run early...when his opponent for the round waits 'til the very end. Why is is "OK" for the late racer to control the pairing? One wants to run early, one wants to run late...but the "late" arriver is in control. The early racer wants to know why we allow it?

I don't know what the proper answer is for either question. The usual answer is to just shrug the shoulders, and say there's nothing I can do about it. I'm interested in your answers as racers are split about 50-50 on this. Just consider me an interested spectator with a with a pretty good cheap seat to watch the races from.

This is easy - do you think they put up with this crap in any other form of motor sports?

Simple if the other half is not there he is out.

If both are not there - they both lose. And so on down the line.

What about - first car there gets automatic lane choice - not important enough.

It should not be a joke to have a call to the lanes and have some guys act like they just got to the track.

Give me a break - get a life - show up on time or lose.

Almost all of us would think it is fair to DQ you - if you are late.

A few prima donna types would wine.

SS Engine Guy · 04-11-2010, 12:23 AM

I've said it on here before: If you don't notify head of staging that you are working on the car and are trying to make the round, then the first pair of cars down the track closes the back of staging and no one else gets in.

Nitrojoe has the idea!

04-10-2010, 10:37 AM	#1
Julie Jordan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 644 Likes: 92 Liked 556 Times in 98 Posts	"Lollygaggers" Quote from DRC this morning in regards to SS eliminations: "8:09 a.m. The drivers are lollygagging, everybody wants to run last...they've known for two days they were scheduled to run at 8 a.m. today." In my opinion, if the officials would close the back of the staging lanes down after a prescribed time period, they wouldn't have these problems!! Off my soapbox and back to tax returns...5 more days! __________________ Julie Jordan 7549 STK

04-10-2010, 10:40 AM	#2
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 58 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: "Lollygaggers" trust me I want to so bad bring a chain with me and close the back of the lanes, these guys ever run the Buckeye race i might call SS/Stk to the lanes a hour early to wait and when these guys pull into lanes they go on up front and out first, lol __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

04-10-2010, 01:03 PM	#3
Bernie Cunningham Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 561 Likes: 46 Liked 52 Times in 17 Posts	Re: "Lollygaggers" I think you two have it all wrong !! They're IN the lanes, probably already paired and just don't want to go up first, a completely different problem. Who are these REPORTERS trying to be Police !????? __________________ Bernie Cunningham 7053 STK

04-10-2010, 07:32 PM	#4
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: "Lollygaggers" Randomly pick the first three pairs (like they have done at some races) And Close the back of the lanes after the first pair leaves the starting line. And The first time they run out of cars in the "water box" - the round is over. Do it once and it will fix itself. __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham Last edited by Andys dad; 04-10-2010 at 07:39 PM.

04-10-2010, 08:13 PM	#5
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: "Lollygaggers" Agree...close the lanes on 1st pair in the water box. Period. No if's ands or but's. We all know why they do it. It's race time! __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

04-10-2010, 08:46 PM	#7
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,590 Likes: 3,876 Liked 904 Times in 237 Posts	Re: "Lollygaggers" The problem should be solved by NHRA by Now. They call the racers to the lanes but the touring pros and others , (Just about everyone knows who they are) want to control when they come to the lanes cause they are busy waiting for info to help them decided or what ever they do ??? . I really don't care when they show up cause if NHRA calls me to the lanes and after a reasonable amount of waiting I am going to the Line . it is not my fault that they are not there , Now after saying this I wonder what would happen to the person Sandbagging ???? Interesting ?? would NHRA disqualify them ??? hey NHRA said come to the lanes so I am going to do what NHRA says not want a sandbagger is doing ?? __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

04-10-2010, 08:29 PM	#8
Rick Carlson Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Laurel Fork, VA, and the Blue Ridge Parkway Posts: 57 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: "Lollygaggers" A couple of questions about this.... 1) When we posted the first three pair, there would be one or two of these first six cars who waited and showed up last. Therefore holding up the entire session. What time limit should be given? )How do you answer the racer who always shows up early in a session and wants to run early...when his opponent for the round waits 'til the very end. Why is is "OK" for the late racer to control the pairing? One wants to run early, one wants to run late...but the "late" arriver is in control. The early racer wants to know why we allow it? I don't know what the proper answer is for either question. The usual answer is to just shrug the shoulders, and say there's nothing I can do about it. I'm interested in your answers as racers are split about 50-50 on this. Just consider me an interested spectator with a with a pretty good cheap seat to watch the races from.

04-11-2010, 12:23 AM	#10
SS Engine Guy Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: usa Posts: 256 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: "Lollygaggers" I've said it on here before: If you don't notify head of staging that you are working on the car and are trying to make the round, then the first pair of cars down the track closes the back of staging and no one else gets in. Nitrojoe has the idea!