dot compliance

[Scotty D]

ok racers here you go i went to the imis show in indy yesterday and stumbled upon this booth,if he is at the pri show i highly recomend talking to him.it's the NTCI(national transportation consultants inc) their name's is Joeseph Y Morrison and Robert E Siefert they did a seminar on tuesday and had a booth set up and had all kinds of free literature including a cd of the seminar.also said you could call at 1-317-770-0953 and ext 100 or 123 or cell numbers are 1-317-698-9500 for robert or 1-317-294-8560 for joseph.very nice guys to talk to this was a very informative little chat.also i forgot to put that there is a website it is www.ntconsult.com

[Mark Callanan]

Originally Posted by Scotty D

ok racers here you go i went to the imis show in indy yesterday and stumbled upon this booth,if he is at the pri show i highly recomend talking to him.it's the NTCI(national transportation consultants inc) their name's is Joeseph Y Morrison and Robert E Siefert they did a seminar on tuesday and had a booth set up and had all kinds of free literature including a cd of the seminar.also said you could call at 1-317-770-0953 and ext 100 or 123 or cell numbers are 1-317-698-9500 for robert or 1-317-294-8560 for joseph.very nice guys to talk to this was a very informative little chat.also i forgot to put that there is a website it is www.ntconsult.com

I am not sure if this is where you were going with this post
But all racers should know and understand the DOT rules
Not knowing will not get you off
And the fines are hugh
I was told this by a DOT inspector at our company Audit
And they make a habit sitting outside race tracks after events

[Chris1529]

I am like Mark. If you talked to them, what did they say?

[Scotty D]

i'm sorry i didn't clarify myself on this subject,i only talked to them for 10 minutes and was told that if you dont meet the weight specs that they meaning the troopers and dot can shut down your tow vehicle and trailer and impound it and cost you alot of money.this is a consulting firm that was called in specifically by the imis show for this purpose of educating racers as to dot regulations.and even not for hire race tow vehicles are in need of a cdl and a drug and alchol testing and required physical's for any vehicle setup that goes over 26,001 lbs.this group is willing to do seminars at anytime,and all they want to do is keep the racers from ending up between a rock and a hard spot.any other info needed they said to call them and ask questions they can help setup the programs you need to get on the legal track.this is a consulting firm that wants to help,they where even going to come to our awards banquet on saturday evening and talk for an hour he said,to get in touch with racers.

[Mark Callanan]

Originally Posted by Scotty D

i'm sorry i didn't clarify myself on this subject,i only talked to them for 10 minutes and was told that if you dont meet the weight specs that they meaning the troopers and dot can shut down your tow vehicle and trailer and impound it and cost you alot of money.this is a consulting firm that was called in specifically by the imis show for this purpose of educating racers as to dot regulations.and even not for hire race tow vehicles are in need of a cdl and a drug and alchol testing and required physical's for any vehicle setup that goes over 26,001 lbs.this group is willing to do seminars at anytime,and all they want to do is keep the racers from ending up between a rock and a hard spot.any other info needed they said to call them and ask questions they can help setup the programs you need to get on the legal track.this is a consulting firm that wants to help,they where even going to come to our awards banquet on saturday evening and talk for an hour he said,to get in touch with racers.

The need for DOT really starts at 10,001 pounds
Ah the weight goes higher there are more rules to go by but at 10,001 you need DOT numbers in alot instances ....

[Chris1529]

the whole thing goes back to whether you are a commercial operation or not.

one DOT or police officer may view you as a commercial operation, one may not.

I saw a triple axle bumber pull camper trailer with a 13000 gvw tag on it. Does a guy that is taking his family on vacation with it need a DOT # any more than those of us that just do this sport for fun.

If you treat your racing operation like a business, that is one thing and I think you need to abide by the rules, but if you just do it for relaxation, you don't need to be subject to the higher taxes, insurance, and DOT rules.

[Ron Traupman]

There are alot gray areas in DOT and the laws are changing everyday. We use J.J. Keller
for our questions and saftey program in our trucking company. The website is www. jjkeller.com and they are open 24/7 to answer any questions. Believe me when I say the laws change everyday. Also every state has their own little laws too. Just my 2 cents.



26,001 and over with air brakes (CDL B)
26,001 and over combo(truck and trailer) CDL A
RV's no cdl
alot of you guys can run (NOT FOR HIRE) on your trailer

[BlueOval Ralph]

JJ Keller is one of the best companys out there! But
RV's no cdl this is ture only if Titled in Personal Name if if it is in a Company Name the it is comerical and all DOT laws apply!

Originally Posted by Ron Traupman

There are alot gray areas in DOT and the laws are changing everyday. We use J.J. Keller
for our questions and saftey program in our trucking company. The website is www. jjkeller.com and they are open 24/7 to answer any questions. Believe me when I say the laws change everyday. Also every state has their own little laws too. Just my 2 cents.



26,001 and over with air brakes (CDL B)
26,001 and over combo(truck and trailer) CDL A
RV's no cdl
alot of you guys can run (NOT FOR HIRE) on your trailer

[MFR440]

Originally Posted by Scotty D

ok racers here you go i went to the imis show in indy yesterday and stumbled upon this booth,if he is at the pri show i highly recomend talking to him.it's the NTCI(national transportation consultants inc) their name's is Joeseph Y Morrison and Robert E Siefert they did a seminar on tuesday and had a booth set up and had all kinds of free literature including a cd of the seminar.also said you could call at 1-317-770-0953 and ext 100 or 123 or cell numbers are 1-317-698-9500 for robert or 1-317-294-8560 for joseph.very nice guys to talk to this was a very informative little chat.also i forgot to put that there is a website it is www.ntconsult.com

These guys are in my hometown, where my Dad still lives. He has an appointment with them next week. I will try to post what he finds out, although our situation may be different - we have a dually pickup with a 48-ft gooseneck with living quarters. According to Indiana BMV, it is an RV and is plated as such. :-)

[Mark Callanan]

MFR440

How is the truck registered?