Bob Shaw is a bad man

Jamie Greening · 03-21-2009, 09:46 PM

Third round of CIC race 2.120 under U index. What a run.

Bench Racer · 03-22-2009, 07:10 AM

Wow, What was he driving?

fredjohnston · 03-22-2009, 07:12 AM

Bob Shaw needs to buy a practice tree.

The Hawk · 03-22-2009, 07:49 AM

Why do you say that Fred? Afterall,this weekend his average light between Class Elims and the CIC race is about a .460. I think just needs to try. Lane

442OLDS · 03-22-2009, 08:00 AM

If he would have stayed with brunch like he did in the first round,he would have been fine.When he decided to have breakfast AND lunch,he ran into a problem.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
5159 Robert Shaw 4517 Patrick Courts
E1 ****WINNER**** 0.235 13.549 75.43 0.052 12.197 107.17
U/SA Index: 15.15 (+/-): -1.601 N/SA Index: 13.30 (+/-): -1.103
Qualified: #99 No Time #99 No Time

Shaw's Cadillac can run way under the index, so far under that he could have brunch before leaving the line, and still win.

X-TECH MAN · 03-22-2009, 09:15 AM

This is another example of how F##KED up the AHFS system is and how slow it is to respond to someone who scanns the class guide to find a slug combo that the average stock racer wouldnt race if it was the last car in the world. There are more such combos in the guide and its really not a sign of a good racer. Just someone who uses the system. A system that needs to be changed.

Stocker 2 · 03-22-2009, 11:26 AM

There is a flaw in the AHFS. When the AHFS was originally written there was no provision put in place to rapidly correct horsepowers that are way out of line. This does not mean there needs to be a way to change horsepower when someone "thinks" it is out of line without actual on track performance data. However once someone blatantly exploits the system, there should be a way to refactor horsepower by committee. Two times of 1.40 or more under the index should allow the committee to set horsepower where they deem it necessary.

X-TECH MAN · 03-22-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stocker 2

there is a flaw in the ahfs. When the ahfs was originally written there was no provision put in place to rapidly correct horsepowers that are way out of line. This does not mean there needs to be a way to change horsepower when someone "thinks" it is out of line without actual on track performance data. However once someone blatantly exploits the system, there should be a way to refactor horsepower by committee. Two times of 1.40 or more under the index should allow the committee to set horsepower where they deem it necessary.

amen !

John Kelley · 03-22-2009, 01:10 PM

Bob Shaw is a SMART man !!!
I can't wait to see what combo he puts together next !!!

X-TECH MAN · 03-22-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by John Kelley

Bob Shaw is a SMART man !!!
I can't wait to see what combo he puts together next !!!

Yes he is.....I never said he was not but how do you think Ron Ortiz and Jack McCarthy not to mention others like Clayton Wright in his 65 Plymouth wagon and others feel when staging against him with thier wagons? Probably kind of how Bruce Noland will feel staged against the blown Ford Mustangs. Its the SYSTEM !

03-21-2009, 09:46 PM	#1
Jamie Greening Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 45 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob Shaw is a bad man Third round of CIC race 2.120 under U index. What a run.

03-22-2009, 07:10 AM	#2
Bench Racer Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Green Creek (Tryon) North Carolina Posts: 331 Likes: 69 Liked 99 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Wow, What was he driving?

03-22-2009, 07:12 AM	#3
fredjohnston Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 341 Likes: 0 Liked 55 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Bob Shaw needs to buy a practice tree.

03-22-2009, 07:49 AM	#4
The Hawk VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton,Colorado Posts: 1,194 Likes: 0 Liked 249 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Why do you say that Fred? Afterall,this weekend his average light between Class Elims and the CIC race is about a .460. I think just needs to try. Lane __________________ Lane Weber It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It

03-22-2009, 08:00 AM	#5
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man If he would have stayed with brunch like he did in the first round,he would have been fine.When he decided to have breakfast AND lunch,he ran into a problem. Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed 5159 Robert Shaw 4517 Patrick Courts E1 **WINNER** 0.235 13.549 75.43 0.052 12.197 107.17 U/SA Index: 15.15 (+/-): -1.601 N/SA Index: 13.30 (+/-): -1.103 Qualified: #99 No Time #99 No Time Shaw's Cadillac can run way under the index, so far under that he could have brunch before leaving the line, and still win.

03-22-2009, 09:15 AM	#6
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man This is another example of how F##KED up the AHFS system is and how slow it is to respond to someone who scanns the class guide to find a slug combo that the average stock racer wouldnt race if it was the last car in the world. There are more such combos in the guide and its really not a sign of a good racer. Just someone who uses the system. A system that needs to be changed.

03-22-2009, 11:26 AM	#7
Stocker 2 Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 137 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man There is a flaw in the AHFS. When the AHFS was originally written there was no provision put in place to rapidly correct horsepowers that are way out of line. This does not mean there needs to be a way to change horsepower when someone "thinks" it is out of line without actual on track performance data. However once someone blatantly exploits the system, there should be a way to refactor horsepower by committee. Two times of 1.40 or more under the index should allow the committee to set horsepower where they deem it necessary.

03-22-2009, 01:10 PM	#9
John Kelley Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tightwad,TEXAS Posts: 911 Likes: 6 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Bob Shaw is a SMART man !!! I can't wait to see what combo he puts together next !!!