Just read this on DRO

SSTRACER323 · 10-07-2008, 05:29 PM

http://www.dragracingonline.com/burksblast/x_9-3.html

HMMMMMM!!!!!

T Hall · 10-07-2008, 05:41 PM

That isnt going to fix ****!

frank v · 10-07-2008, 05:59 PM

most of our crashes are from people slamming the brakes or maybe blowing an engine ,so how shorting the track is going to fix this problem?

Jason Oldfield · 10-07-2008, 06:50 PM

Well, I certainly hope this isn't the case. Maybe it's time for a poll to see if the sportsman racers support this, and if not to get the Sportsman Racing Advisory Council involved.

I loved Burk's analogy about NASCAR when Earnhardt died. Did NASCAR reduce the length of Daytona and Talladega by 25% or reduce the speeds of the cars any further? Nope. They improved the cars and the safety equipment being used. Plus, Dale Earnhardt was one of the most outspoken drivers about slowing the cars down and using restrictor plates.

Reducing the track to 1000' will definitely cut down speeds, which does reduce the possibility for injury when an accident occurs (its all about momentum). But, IMHO, the recent deaths that we have seen are not a direct result of the speeds at which these drivers were traveling. Instead, it was simply a series of unfortunate events. Seriously, before recent events, who was the last .90 racer to be killed at an NHRA national or LODRS event? Its just not that common of an occurrence, especially when you factor in the number of passes that have been made in these classes.

My sympathies go out to the families and friends that have lost loved ones while racing, but I for one don't like it (though, for us sportsman racers, it will be easier on the equipment, and many will probably like the decision because of this).

S/G 386N · 10-07-2008, 07:00 PM

Who's the 3rd driver in the last month to die besides Steve Engel and Doug McRobie?

frank v · 10-07-2008, 07:07 PM

i heard from someone that somebody died at atlanta but i didn't see anything on the computer.

SSTRACER323 · 10-07-2008, 07:12 PM

Go to DRO under the 1320 agent it is the second page back i think
It was a AA/FC guy

Rob Petrie E395 · 10-07-2008, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S/G 386N

Who's the 3rd driver in the last month to die besides Steve Engel and Doug McRobie?

Div 2 alcohol funny car driver passed away after a crash this weekend the name slips my mind at the moment

sorry guys was typing while somebody posted his name

63corvette · 10-07-2008, 08:55 PM

I have been racing the 9.90 category since the early 1990's and almost every one of those years at least one or two of the 9.90 category racers died in a crash duing the year. It has just gotten worse the last few years as speed increased and more people are on the brakes hard at the finish line. I can remember two drivers from last year who died in the 9.90 category finish line crashes.
One quick fix is to enforce the braking rule at the finish line now in place. I race 6 to 10 division races and 6 to 8 National events each year and watch all the sportsman category races I can. I can not count the number of times I have witnessed smoke on the tires and people almost loose it on the big end even in the stock category at just over 100 MPH with no consequences. Most of my 9.90 category racers now run at around 160 MPH at the finish line which makes things worse with hard braking. A friend last year hit the brakes so hard he moved over and crossed the finish line in the opposite lane. All he was told was do not do that again. As bad as it scared him I am sure he won't but others will until they have the same result or worse.
I have also witnessed some of the big names almost loose it at the finish line win and be back and do the same thing next round.
Until NHRA steps up with disqualifications and supensions for hard braking at the finish line this will continue to happen even at 1000 ft or even 1/8 th mile.
Just My 2 Cents

Bob Verwold · 10-07-2008, 07:14 PM

Tony is that an attitude ? I think NHRA could find a better solution to the problem, this is a band aid on an open wound. NASCAR went to the soft walls in the corners can't they install something like this from 1000 ft on to the end. Is the cost to much for them to absorb.I think this is the beginning of every one going 1/8 mi. Hope it's not true.

10-07-2008, 05:29 PM	#1
SSTRACER323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coal City, IL. Posts: 775 Likes: 3 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Just read this on DRO http://www.dragracingonline.com/burksblast/x_9-3.html HMMMMMM!!!!! __________________ The Doughboy Lee Lones S/ST 323L

10-07-2008, 05:41 PM	#2
T Hall Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus,Ohio Posts: 390 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO That isnt going to fix ****! __________________ Tony Hall 3545 S/ST

10-07-2008, 05:59 PM	#3
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO most of our crashes are from people slamming the brakes or maybe blowing an engine ,so how shorting the track is going to fix this problem? __________________ s/g 1620

10-07-2008, 06:50 PM	#4
Jason Oldfield Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 619 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO Well, I certainly hope this isn't the case. Maybe it's time for a poll to see if the sportsman racers support this, and if not to get the Sportsman Racing Advisory Council involved. I loved Burk's analogy about NASCAR when Earnhardt died. Did NASCAR reduce the length of Daytona and Talladega by 25% or reduce the speeds of the cars any further? Nope. They improved the cars and the safety equipment being used. Plus, Dale Earnhardt was one of the most outspoken drivers about slowing the cars down and using restrictor plates. Reducing the track to 1000' will definitely cut down speeds, which does reduce the possibility for injury when an accident occurs (its all about momentum). But, IMHO, the recent deaths that we have seen are not a direct result of the speeds at which these drivers were traveling. Instead, it was simply a series of unfortunate events. Seriously, before recent events, who was the last .90 racer to be killed at an NHRA national or LODRS event? Its just not that common of an occurrence, especially when you factor in the number of passes that have been made in these classes. My sympathies go out to the families and friends that have lost loved ones while racing, but I for one don't like it (though, for us sportsman racers, it will be easier on the equipment, and many will probably like the decision because of this). __________________ Jason Oldfield S/G & S/St 1838

10-07-2008, 07:00 PM	#5
S/G 386N Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 103 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO Who's the 3rd driver in the last month to die besides Steve Engel and Doug McRobie? __________________ JJ Nance '06 Don Davis C5 Corvette

10-07-2008, 07:07 PM	#6
frank v Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ny Posts: 286 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO i heard from someone that somebody died at atlanta but i didn't see anything on the computer. __________________ s/g 1620

10-07-2008, 07:12 PM	#7
SSTRACER323 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coal City, IL. Posts: 775 Likes: 3 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Just read this on DRO Go to DRO under the 1320 agent it is the second page back i think It was a AA/FC guy __________________ The Doughboy Lee Lones S/ST 323L

10-07-2008, 08:55 PM	#9
63corvette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Canyon, Tx Posts: 552 Likes: 128 Liked 359 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO I have been racing the 9.90 category since the early 1990's and almost every one of those years at least one or two of the 9.90 category racers died in a crash duing the year. It has just gotten worse the last few years as speed increased and more people are on the brakes hard at the finish line. I can remember two drivers from last year who died in the 9.90 category finish line crashes. One quick fix is to enforce the braking rule at the finish line now in place. I race 6 to 10 division races and 6 to 8 National events each year and watch all the sportsman category races I can. I can not count the number of times I have witnessed smoke on the tires and people almost loose it on the big end even in the stock category at just over 100 MPH with no consequences. Most of my 9.90 category racers now run at around 160 MPH at the finish line which makes things worse with hard braking. A friend last year hit the brakes so hard he moved over and crossed the finish line in the opposite lane. All he was told was do not do that again. As bad as it scared him I am sure he won't but others will until they have the same result or worse. I have also witnessed some of the big names almost loose it at the finish line win and be back and do the same thing next round. Until NHRA steps up with disqualifications and supensions for hard braking at the finish line this will continue to happen even at 1000 ft or even 1/8 th mile. Just My 2 Cents

10-07-2008, 07:14 PM	#10
Bob Verwold Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fayetteville Ohio Posts: 656 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just read this on DRO Tony is that an attitude ? I think NHRA could find a better solution to the problem, this is a band aid on an open wound. NASCAR went to the soft walls in the corners can't they install something like this from 1000 ft on to the end. Is the cost to much for them to absorb.I think this is the beginning of every one going 1/8 mi. Hope it's not true.