Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch

luckydog · 10-06-2008, 05:34 AM

How much is the Terminator worth with all the shims out? Seems like it can't be much more than the long adjustable Harrington. Thanks

Ed Wright · 10-06-2008, 12:32 PM

They told me about .05 if you push hard on the button. The shims are supposed to be .01 each, but they seem less than that to me. Could be 'cause I'm old.

casper · 10-06-2008, 01:52 PM

as you remove shims , the plunger has a longer travel , and the spring gets stretched . Wouldn't lengthening the spring put more tension on it, and wouldn't this increase the velocity of the plunger on it's way back ? negating the "delay" that you are trying to get by removing the shims. I was enlightened on this topic by a fellow SS racer ... anyone care to chime in ?

MP

Jamie Greening · 10-06-2008, 07:37 PM

I have one in my truck. The instructions say the top 4 shims are worth .005 each with the bottom 2 being worth .003 each because of spring tension. So that is a total of .026 if you go off what they say. I have seen from .030 to .035 on the practice tree and in the truck, but I don't push hard. You could see more if you push hard but it could hurt consistanty.

luckydog · 10-06-2008, 09:44 PM

Anyone have any experience with the long Harrington button. How much is it worth?

Aaron Allison · 10-07-2008, 08:48 AM

I would say it is worth around 2 hundreth. I have never seen much more than that. I have also tried the Biondo 5-0 and I found that it was worth maybe .03-.035, but not very consistent. The best buttin I found to have a lot of delay was the AX. This button is no longer allowed in SS , but it could be adjusted to leave on the second bulb on the practice tree. It seemed like the more you had it adjusted though the more inconsistent it was. Temperature of the button also affected it a lot.

drago2260 · 07-18-2020, 10:19 PM

Does anyone know someone that would have an older bindo Ax button (oil filled adjustable) for sale ? Looking for a motorcycle class where they are still legal to run .

Thanks

10-06-2008, 05:34 AM	#1
luckydog Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ottawa, OH Posts: 274 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch How much is the Terminator worth with all the shims out? Seems like it can't be much more than the long adjustable Harrington. Thanks __________________ Damien Hazelton Lucky Dog Racing

10-06-2008, 12:32 PM	#2
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch They told me about .05 if you push hard on the button. The shims are supposed to be .01 each, but they seem less than that to me. Could be 'cause I'm old. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

10-06-2008, 01:52 PM	#3
casper Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 112 Likes: 4 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch as you remove shims , the plunger has a longer travel , and the spring gets stretched . Wouldn't lengthening the spring put more tension on it, and wouldn't this increase the velocity of the plunger on it's way back ? negating the "delay" that you are trying to get by removing the shims. I was enlightened on this topic by a fellow SS racer ... anyone care to chime in ? MP

10-06-2008, 07:37 PM	#4
Jamie Greening Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 45 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch I have one in my truck. The instructions say the top 4 shims are worth .005 each with the bottom 2 being worth .003 each because of spring tension. So that is a total of .026 if you go off what they say. I have seen from .030 to .035 on the practice tree and in the truck, but I don't push hard. You could see more if you push hard but it could hurt consistanty.

10-06-2008, 09:44 PM	#5
luckydog Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Ottawa, OH Posts: 274 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch Anyone have any experience with the long Harrington button. How much is it worth? __________________ Damien Hazelton Lucky Dog Racing

10-07-2008, 08:48 AM	#6
Aaron Allison Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: East Palestine, OH Posts: 219 Likes: 4 Liked 150 Times in 43 Posts	Re: Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch I would say it is worth around 2 hundreth. I have never seen much more than that. I have also tried the Biondo 5-0 and I found that it was worth maybe .03-.035, but not very consistent. The best buttin I found to have a lot of delay was the AX. This button is no longer allowed in SS , but it could be adjusted to leave on the second bulb on the practice tree. It seemed like the more you had it adjusted though the more inconsistent it was. Temperature of the button also affected it a lot. __________________ Aaron Allison 395 STK, 395 SS, 3395 SC

07-18-2020, 10:19 PM	#7
drago2260 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 5 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Biondo "Terminator" transbrake switch Does anyone know someone that would have an older bindo Ax button (oil filled adjustable) for sale ? Looking for a motorcycle class where they are still legal to run . Thanks