Super Stock GT Rules?

darrellbargeron · 10-01-2023, 04:14 PM

I have a 1968 Dodge Dart that is backhalved with a 9 inch Ford rear. The front k member has been replaced with a tubular k member but still has the std steering box. My question is: Is it legal in super stock to run a tubular k member in a car like this in the gt classes? Or is that only allowed with the front wheel drive conversion cars?

Thanks Darrell

Dyno · 10-01-2023, 08:30 PM

Stock K member required, but it can be modified for oil pan etc.

Adger Smith · 10-02-2023, 12:13 AM

Sit tight.. A little bird has chirped about that rule being changed.
If it happens it will be in the 2024 rules.
Make your decisions after the 2024 rules are released.
I think it might be an effort to equalize the rules between the FWD conversions and the RWD SS/GT cars.

Damn Yankee · 06-17-2024, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Adger Smith

Sit tight.. A little bird has chirped about that rule being changed.
If it happens it will be in the 2024 rules.
Make your decisions after the 2024 rules are released.
I think it might be an effort to equalize the rules between the FWD conversions and the RWD SS/GT cars.

Adger, Any updates in the 2024 rules reference the front end rules for SS/GT Cars ? Looking at a SS/FGTD build

Charles Stewart · 06-20-2024, 10:35 AM

No change in the 2024 rulebook. See the link below in the Suspension Front paragraph at the end of it.
https://www.nhraracer.com/Files/Tech...20Rulebook.pdf

Rory McNeil · 10-02-2023, 12:34 PM

Concerning the back half, it may or may not be legal for Super Stock , depending on how it was done. The rear frame rails are not permitted to be higher than the factory trunk floor, and most of the original trunk floor needs to be retained. So if the car has had all the trunk flooring replaced, or made of flat steel or aluminum, and had the frame rails made to "kick up" higher etc, that will need to be corrected to meet the rules.

Jim Caughlin · 10-02-2023, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Concerning the back half, it may or may not be legal for Super Stock , depending on how it was done. The rear frame rails are not permitted to be higher than the factory trunk floor, and most of the original trunk floor needs to be retained. So if the car has had all the trunk flooring replaced, or made of flat steel or aluminum, and had the frame rails made to "kick up" higher etc, that will need to be corrected to meet the rules.

A legal Super Stock back half is way different from a generic back half. As Rory states, it needs to be mostly not only steel but also mostly original floorpan. Any suspension retrofit need to be contained under the original floor, a work around on that is that it can be contained inside the new steel tubs. Way more complicated than a generic back half. On the other hand, I have seen some massively illegal back halves hiding under carpeting and no one is saying anything.

MAURICE BLENDHEIM · 10-03-2023, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin

A legal Super Stock back half is way different from a generic back half. As Rory states, it needs to be mostly not only steel but also mostly original floorpan. Any suspension retrofit need to be contained under the original floor, a work around on that is that it can be contained inside the new steel tubs. Way more complicated than a generic back half. On the other hand, I have seen some massively illegal back halves hiding under carpeting and no one is saying anything.

They must be East Coast Cars, out West it's all by The Book. MB

darrellbargeron · 10-04-2023, 03:52 PM

Hopefully these pictures attached correctly. Does this look like it would be legal. Ignore the spider webs and dust, it's been sitting a couple of years...

Well I tried uploading a picture of the trunk but it keeps failing. Apparently the file is too big or to high of resolution.

CMcAllister · 10-04-2023, 07:44 PM

Stock/original floor, in the original location, between the frame rails. All the way to the tail panel.

10-01-2023, 04:14 PM	#1
darrellbargeron Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 20 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Super Stock GT Rules? I have a 1968 Dodge Dart that is backhalved with a 9 inch Ford rear. The front k member has been replaced with a tubular k member but still has the std steering box. My question is: Is it legal in super stock to run a tubular k member in a car like this in the gt classes? Or is that only allowed with the front wheel drive conversion cars? Thanks Darrell

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Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 883 Likes: 982 Liked 613 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Super Stock GT Rules? Stock K member required, but it can be modified for oil pan etc.

10-02-2023, 12:13 AM	#3
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,399 Likes: 496 Liked 724 Times in 280 Posts	Re: Super Stock GT Rules? Sit tight.. A little bird has chirped about that rule being changed. If it happens it will be in the 2024 rules. Make your decisions after the 2024 rules are released. I think it might be an effort to equalize the rules between the FWD conversions and the RWD SS/GT cars. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS)

06-20-2024, 10:35 AM	#5
Charles Stewart Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Riviere-du-Loup, (QC) Canada Posts: 337 Likes: 1,461 Liked 604 Times in 178 Posts	Re: Super Stock GT Rules? No change in the 2024 rulebook. See the link below in the Suspension Front paragraph at the end of it. https://www.nhraracer.com/Files/Tech...20Rulebook.pdf __________________ AAF/S double "A" fun/stock Last edited by Charles Stewart; 06-20-2024 at 10:40 AM.

10-02-2023, 12:34 PM	#6
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,266 Likes: 250 Liked 966 Times in 268 Posts	Re: Super Stock GT Rules? Concerning the back half, it may or may not be legal for Super Stock , depending on how it was done. The rear frame rails are not permitted to be higher than the factory trunk floor, and most of the original trunk floor needs to be retained. So if the car has had all the trunk flooring replaced, or made of flat steel or aluminum, and had the frame rails made to "kick up" higher etc, that will need to be corrected to meet the rules. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

10-04-2023, 03:52 PM	#9
darrellbargeron Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 20 Likes: 2 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Super Stock GT Rules? Hopefully these pictures attached correctly. Does this look like it would be legal. Ignore the spider webs and dust, it's been sitting a couple of years... Well I tried uploading a picture of the trunk but it keeps failing. Apparently the file is too big or to high of resolution. Last edited by darrellbargeron; 10-04-2023 at 04:02 PM.

10-04-2023, 07:44 PM	#10
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 562 Likes: 12 Liked 788 Times in 222 Posts	Re: Super Stock GT Rules? Stock/original floor, in the original location, between the frame rails. All the way to the tail panel. Last edited by CMcAllister; 10-04-2023 at 07:57 PM.