And the penalties are???

RNNChrisbarnes · 03-15-2021, 12:44 PM

Statement of Action Against Participant
The following action has been taken against Gary Summers regarding the use of a modified carburetor used during Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event #22 at Gainesville, Florida on March 5, 2021. Summers was disqualified from the event and will receive 0 points from the event and the event will count towards his quota. Additionally, because this was Summers second offense in less than two years, he was fined Two Thousand Five Hundred dollars ($2,500).

Statement of Action Against Participant
The following action has been taken against Cody Phillips regarding the use of a throttle body used during Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event #22 at Gainesville, Florida on March 5, 2021. Phillips was disqualified from the event and will receive 0 points from the event and the event will count towards his quota.

Bryan Worner · 03-15-2021, 01:27 PM

What they are is BULL****!!!! Cody and Gary, my statement here is nothing personal and I have no beef with either of you, but your penalties piss me off and I’ll explain why! A few year ago, I was in both the national and divisional championship hunt! I had won second round of eliminations at a Lucas oil race (in division) and was getting ready to go up for round three, when here came the tech guys on the golf cart into my pit! They advised me that I could not legally run the class I was running with the car I was claiming. I was dq’d from the race, receiving THE SAME PUNISHMENT that these two received for using illegal parts for performance gains! Now I did make a mistake, that was correctable by changing the year of my car on my tech card. It was a mistake on my part because I got to the track late and was a little rushed to get up there for the first qualifying run. I would not have even tried to make that run but weather was threatening to disrupt the rest of the day, so I wanted that run. Had tech came over with that news after that run, I would have said, ok, let me fix my mistake, throw the run out and let’s move on! That DQ ended up costing me the division championship and a number 2 national finish.

My point being these two get the same punishment for using illegal parts for a performance gain as I did for claiming the wrong year car for the GT class I was running! (Rule changed this year making that mistake impossible). So you can see why this punishment downright offends me! Hell, it should give those who need the help the incentive to cheat! What’s the worst that can happen? A slap on the wrist apparently!!! And for a repeat offender at that!!

Dave Ficacci · 03-15-2021, 01:51 PM

The risk vs reward incentive to cheat just went WAY up

doglover44 · 03-15-2021, 02:06 PM

so nobody gets grounded / time off for punishment anymore ?

Brett C · 03-15-2021, 02:08 PM

Sad!

Jeff Johnson · 03-15-2021, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by doglover44

so nobody gets grounded / time off for punishment anymore ?

Hard to Collect Entry Fee when said racer is not allowed to enter race$$$

doglover44 · 03-15-2021, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Johnson

Hard to Collect Entry Fee when said racer is not allowed to enter race$$$

Makes sense

Billy Nees · 03-15-2021, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RNNChrisbarnes

Additionally, because this was ********** second offense in less than two years, he was fined Two Thousand Five Hundred dollars ($2,500)..

Let ME, Billy Nees Stk/SS 1188 make one thing perfectly clear to the NHRA right now, the FIRST time that I am fined ANY AMOUNT of MONEY for ANYTHING regarding a TECH infraction or an Oil Down, good luck collecting because you will NEVER (never) EVER see me at an NHRA Event of ANY KIND AGAIN!!!!
You want to give me time off, fine. You want to take my parts, OK. You want to take away ALL of my points, go ahead. You want to fine me THAT kind of money for ANY kind of an infraction at one of your races where IF I WIN THE RACE, the NHRA Winners Purse is $1500-$2000? Take a hike!

Larry Hill · 03-15-2021, 05:41 PM

Ordered parts for my new 500 inch stock/bracket roller motor, not. What a disappointment in NHRA. So if we go to tear down we point out something easy to get DQ on but nothing else is checked for size or volume.

Allen here is your chance to own a pink car.

I’m building a bracket car. A class win has been sold for a few silver coins.
Skip the middle man and go to the NHRA eBay site and get your own bowling trophies for pennies on the dollar.

Gargle, Swallow, Repeat !

Frank Castros · 03-15-2021, 07:10 PM

The N.H.R.A. is listening to the members of this forum as I'm sure they do, how they process the feedback is anyone's guess. I'm challenged to how they make these poor decisions such as the Summers and Phillips incidents. Yet they severely punish Bryan Worner who was not cheating but made an honest mistake.
The Division and Technical Directors need to review the thought process of their decisions.

03-15-2021, 12:44 PM	#1
RNNChrisbarnes Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 145 Likes: 1 Liked 192 Times in 44 Posts	And the penalties are??? Statement of Action Against Participant The following action has been taken against Gary Summers regarding the use of a modified carburetor used during Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event #22 at Gainesville, Florida on March 5, 2021. Summers was disqualified from the event and will receive 0 points from the event and the event will count towards his quota. Additionally, because this was Summers second offense in less than two years, he was fined Two Thousand Five Hundred dollars ($2,500). Statement of Action Against Participant The following action has been taken against Cody Phillips regarding the use of a throttle body used during Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series event #22 at Gainesville, Florida on March 5, 2021. Phillips was disqualified from the event and will receive 0 points from the event and the event will count towards his quota. __________________ facebook.com/racersnewsnetwork

03-15-2021, 01:51 PM	#3
Dave Ficacci Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Jersey Posts: 371 Likes: 43 Liked 98 Times in 23 Posts	Re: And the penalties are??? The risk vs reward incentive to cheat just went WAY up __________________ Dave Ficacci 1013 STK 1170 SS

03-15-2021, 02:06 PM	#4
doglover44 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Carlisle OH Posts: 1,386 Likes: 4 Liked 489 Times in 227 Posts	Re: And the penalties are??? so nobody gets grounded / time off for punishment anymore ? __________________ Jake Biermann

03-15-2021, 02:08 PM	#5
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03-15-2021, 05:41 PM	#9
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,633 Likes: 1,928 Liked 10,687 Times in 2,225 Posts	Re: And the penalties are??? Ordered parts for my new 500 inch stock/bracket roller motor, not. What a disappointment in NHRA. So if we go to tear down we point out something easy to get DQ on but nothing else is checked for size or volume. Allen here is your chance to own a pink car. I’m building a bracket car. A class win has been sold for a few silver coins. Skip the middle man and go to the NHRA eBay site and get your own bowling trophies for pennies on the dollar. Gargle, Swallow, Repeat ! __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

03-15-2021, 01:27 PM	#2
Bryan Worner Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Duncannon, PA Posts: 823 Likes: 133 Liked 521 Times in 84 Posts	Re: And the penalties are??? What they are is BULL****!!!! Cody and Gary, my statement here is nothing personal and I have no beef with either of you, but your penalties piss me off and I’ll explain why! A few year ago, I was in both the national and divisional championship hunt! I had won second round of eliminations at a Lucas oil race (in division) and was getting ready to go up for round three, when here came the tech guys on the golf cart into my pit! They advised me that I could not legally run the class I was running with the car I was claiming. I was dq’d from the race, receiving THE SAME PUNISHMENT that these two received for using illegal parts for performance gains! Now I did make a mistake, that was correctable by changing the year of my car on my tech card. It was a mistake on my part because I got to the track late and was a little rushed to get up there for the first qualifying run. I would not have even tried to make that run but weather was threatening to disrupt the rest of the day, so I wanted that run. Had tech came over with that news after that run, I would have said, ok, let me fix my mistake, throw the run out and let’s move on! That DQ ended up costing me the division championship and a number 2 national finish. My point being these two get the same punishment for using illegal parts for a performance gain as I did for claiming the wrong year car for the GT class I was running! (Rule changed this year making that mistake impossible). So you can see why this punishment downright offends me! Hell, it should give those who need the help the incentive to cheat! What’s the worst that can happen? A slap on the wrist apparently!!! And for a repeat offender at that!!

03-15-2021, 07:10 PM	#10
Frank Castros VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The Lowcountry. Posts: 2,967 Likes: 2,581 Liked 2,717 Times in 957 Posts	Re: And the penalties are??? The N.H.R.A. is listening to the members of this forum as I'm sure they do, how they process the feedback is anyone's guess. I'm challenged to how they make these poor decisions such as the Summers and Phillips incidents. Yet they severely punish Bryan Worner who was not cheating but made an honest mistake. The Division and Technical Directors need to review the thought process of their decisions.