Fuel Injection

[Brett C]

I know this has been beat to death, but since most people who race NHRA got what they asked for by getting the "new" cars in their own classes. How about splitting out the FI cars from the normal classes like IHRA has done? If we're going to make things fair, let's make them fair for everyone. I'm sure the 68/69 Camaro guys would love to see the TPI group not be able to beat them up regularly!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! God bless the racing community.

[Brett C]

24 hours, over 500 views, no replies. Guess we can pull it Ken?

[Jeff Teuton]

Interesting concept. That would include the "new" new cars, and the "old" new cars like the LT1 and LS1 & such. Wow. Nothing but 69 Camaros left. How about this. A class for 69 Camaros (A/69C,B/69 C etc.) and throw the rest of the contraband in one big bunch. Contraband, thats me & you & cooter dog & Hill & Hopkins & the rest of us contrabandies. What you think?

[Brett C]

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Interesting concept. That would include the "new" new cars, and the "old" new cars like the LT1 and LS1 & such. Wow. Nothing but 69 Camaros left. How about this. A class for 69 Camaros (A/69C,B/69 C etc.) and throw the rest of the contraband in one big bunch. Contraband, thats me & you & cooter dog & Hill & Hopkins & the rest of us contrabandies. What you think?

Just wanting it be fair for all. We can keep the "new" new cars in one group, all other FI cars in another, then all the carb rides in their own???

Mr Jeff you're always filled with words of wisdom....lay it on us!!!

[D.Johns]

How about breaking it down even further. Separate the cars by the owners income and amount spent on their car. A Hundreth off for every hundred earned/spent. But everyone must still get a trophy and no one can know what class the other is in because it may single others out.


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The Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars.
Those stars weren’t so big. They were really so small.
You might think such a thing wouldn’t matter at all.

Then ONE day, it seems while the Plain-Belly Sneetches
Were moping and doping alone on the beaches,
Just sitting there wishing their bellies had stars,
A stranger zipped up in the strangest of cars!

[jim powers]

been there done that--------- they tried fuel injection classes over 10 years ago--bottom line is nhra is too cheap to give the extra wallys and they use up their time for more interesting classes----sleds, turbo washing machines etc etc etc

[Bob Mulry]

It seems that this plan would be the wrong direction to go.........

More classes = less heads-up runs in class and the eliminator......

The biggest class at INDY would be the Auto & Stick Combo Class Eliminator......

So much for stock being a performance based eliminator

That way all we have to have is shoe polish to race.........

We could be just like T-Ball and get a trophy before we go out for pizza....

Just the thoughts of an old guy who still appreciates performance...

Bob

[countrypuppy4865]

I think they got this one right for the most part. I think the drastic changes for SS went a little too far (Drag pak, copo, and cobra jet falling in FS/GT even with old engine). However, this just separates the engines that weren't available at the dealership from engines that were. You can still have a new car in regular classes. You can take a regular challenger and put a 5.7 Hemi in it and run H-J/S(A) with a 300hp rating. This is no different from how it has been for years. The factory rates engines that came in these cars on the street at a lower hp than their capability. However, you will not stick a factory engine in the car and go to the top of the qualifying sheet. They will still take some work to make them run.

If you take a look at nitro joe's stats, I bet the vast majority of the fastest cars from CC/SA -up have a carburetor (taking out the Copos, Drag Paks, and Cobra Jets).

CC/SA - Fastest Chuck Rayburn
A/SA - Bruce Noland
B/SA - Jim Boudreau
C/SA - Russell Linke (FI car)
D/SA - Randy Lyn
E/SA - Andrew Hill
F/SA - Myself (FI car)
G/SA - Gary Parker
H/SA - Chris Butcher
I/SA - Steve Szupka
J/SA - Frank Ferrucci
K/SA - Billy Lynn

Looking at this it doesn't appear that the regular FI cars are that dominant. In almost every class with a FS car as the fastest they were .20-.30 faster than the closest non FS car.

[Brett C]

Valid points Cooter, as always. You have won IHRA championships and they have it broken out FI. Didn't seem to effect the successes there. Just killing time and throwing stuff out there. Understand if it doesn't make sense in certain places, it probably doesn't make sense for changes across the board.
Super Stock paints a much different picture than the one painted for stock.
Looking forward to the new NHRA classes this year...should be interesting at the big races!

[countrypuppy4865]

Originally Posted by Brett C

Valid points Cooter, as always. You have won IHRA championships and they have it broken out FI. Didn't seem to effect the successes there. Just killing time and throwing stuff out there. Understand if it doesn't make sense in certain places, it probably doesn't make sense for changes across the board.
Super Stock paints a much different picture than the one painted for stock.
Looking forward to the new NHRA classes this year...should be interesting at the big races!

Brett,

There are very few new cars that attended IHRA races.