Div 2 a 2 stater once again? FL GA

[Mickey Whaley]

If we can only have 5 in division races why not run 2 races in one weekend to make one up?

[KingReptile]

Mickey I posted under div 1 about calling them and my rant.Are you going to Fayetville next weekend or are u no longer running stock.What is your profession now days Pro Golfer,Porn Star or Proffesional actor .I always got a good laugh when they would announce you and your proffesion at the races

[Alan Roehrich]

Because, no better than the management of Division 2 is, they do well to get one division race done in a weekend. I'm not sure they could get 2 done if they started on Thursday morning.

Now, I'm not referring to the people that work at the races, the Division 2 staff guys and gals that actually work directly with us are great.

We could have more than 5 LODRS events. It's just that our division is as poorly run now as it was before.

You know, people keep saying Bruton Smith won't have LODRS events at his tracks, apparently referring to Bristol and Charlotte. But if memory serves correct, Las Vegas is a Bruton Smith track.

[art leong]

In all fairness I'll bet most of the schedule was set before the new director got here.
I think we ought to give the guy a chance to straighten out what was screwed up in the past.

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

You know, people keep saying Bruton Smith won't have LODRS events at his tracks, apparently referring to Bristol and Charlotte. But if memory serves correct, Las Vegas is a Bruton Smith track.

True Alan but the Las Vegas LODRS event usually gets between 8 and 9 hundred entries - they have classes most of us haven't yet heard of .........

Artie -- I agree - give the new guy a chance before you hang 'em .

[KingReptile]

Originally Posted by art leong

In all fairness I'll bet most of the schedule was set before the new director got here.
I think we ought to give the guy a chance to straighten out what was screwed up in the past.

Its too late for me Im gonna represent Div 4 there loss!!!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by art leong

In all fairness I'll bet most of the schedule was set before the new director got here.
I think we ought to give the guy a chance to straighten out what was screwed up in the past.

Art,
Supposedly Bill left around the end of August, or at least some time in September, since he wasn't in Atlanta. The new guy was named 2 months ago, on the 15th of September.

The new guy was pretty much a ghost at Reynolds. And I'm betting he'll be a yes man for Glendora, and little will change in Division 2. A guy who is truly dedicated to changing things and getting the job done would have been out meeting racers constantly at his first race. And that was a month ago, a month before the schedule was announced.

If he actually knew anything about racing and racers, and he gave a damn about them, he'd have been out in the staging lanes and the pits meeting and greeting them. That's what people who hustle and do good things are all about. You don't have to look for them, if you're their customer (and Division 2 racers ARE his customers) they'll come and find you.

[KingReptile]

Originally Posted by alan roehrich

art,


if he actually knew anything about racing and racers, and he gave a damn about them, he'd have been out in the staging lanes and the pits meeting and greeting them. That's what people who hustle and do good things are all about. You don't have to look for them, if you're their customer (and division 2 racers are his customers) they'll come and find you.

amen

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

True Alan but the Las Vegas LODRS event usually gets between 8 and 9 hundred entries - they have classes most of us haven't yet heard of .........

Artie -- I agree - give the new guy a chance before you hang 'em .

I'm with Art and Jack on this one...one of our tech officials at Reynolds told me he seems a very reasonable guy but it may be a while before he has the true latitude to make his mark. But if I lived in TN, MS, AL I'd run D3 or 4, only makes logistical sense. The D2 schedule fits snowbirds to a tee but I also hoped for Bristol (or Charlotte) Divisional to make it more geographical representative. It's almost like NHRA concedes NC,SC, and VA to IHRA or D1....

I am a bit curious as to how they convinced SGMP to fund the alcohol purse...they'll have to draw a boat load of cars and spectators to break even.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

True Alan but the Las Vegas LODRS event usually gets between 8 and 9 hundred entries - they have classes most of us haven't yet heard of .........

Jack, if our Division Director had been worth a damn, there could have been more than enough cars to support LODRS races at Bristol, as well as Charlotte, as both tracks can easily draw from at least one or two other Divisions. Bristol can easily draw from both 1 and 3, and Charlotte can draw from 1 easily, and there are plenty of racers from 3 that would go to Charlotte as well.

The Division management has to want it badly enough to go get it done, and they didn't, and probably still don't.

We have 5 races, all in two states, in a Division that serves seven states. There is ZERO excuse for that. Division 2 racers have been begging for a 7 race schedule for years, along with some races outside of Florida and Georgia (Atlanta or further south). We've had extra classes at our division races, too.

Honestly, they just made our schedule twice as bad as it was. More conflicts with other divisions, and more races stacked on top of each other, requiring either a lot more driving, or a lot more time off from work, or both. In this economy, they have you racing two weekends in a row, three times in eight weeks. They done nothing but kill off more potential car count, making the races less profitable for the track owners, and making it even harder to run for the racers. They've done more of exactly what most racers asked them to do less of. That's a real slap in the face for paying customers.