Dart SHP Race block

SST159 · 01-16-2010, 09:27 AM

Any input out there on the Dart SHP race block, Pros and Cons vs the Dart Little M.
SBC High 9 sec car 2800 lbs.

Bryan Gillespie · 01-16-2010, 04:29 PM

Drew just got back from Billy T house and he bought 1 and is really pleased with block, he is building a 415 ci and block looks strong.

SlickVic · 01-16-2010, 04:54 PM

The dart website says its only good for 600 hp, and i talked to a dart tech that said they are conservative and he would trust it to 700 hp. Now, i have seen a NOS equipped run almost 1000 hp on a SHP and have no problem and you could say the same about some stock gm blocks. Shop around for the little M's and you can get awesome prices. I was able to acquire a dart little M steel billet cap block for about 600$ more than the shp. Also the SHP can't be bored as big as the little M.

SST159 · 01-16-2010, 06:21 PM

Thanks for the input guys.
I think I am going with the SHP.
Dart tells me it is good for at least 700 HP and has way more meat and stronger than the GM blocks. (even the older high nickel blocks)
I was leaning toward the Little M however the weight swayed me away as it is 40 -50 lbs heavier than my GM block which will mess up my chassis tune up. The SHP is only about 15 lbs more than my block.
50 lbs will put the snubbers on the frame. I doubt I will ever push more than 700 HP at it.
BTW My compliments to Dart.
The guy I spoke with spent a good hour on the phone with me and intellegently answered every important question I had.
Great job Dart!
Any other feed back, bring it on.
Thanks

SlickVic · 01-16-2010, 07:26 PM

Ship weight on my little m was like 205 i believe. Summit says SHP is 175 lbs. But i need all the weight i can get up front to keep the nose down!

d1hitter · 01-16-2010, 07:32 PM

Longer IC will fix that problem.

3258 · 01-30-2010, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SST159

BTW My compliments to Dart.
The guy I spoke with spent a good hour on the phone with me and intellegently answered every important question I had.
Great job Dart!
Any other feed back, bring it on.
Thanks

thats great you had good customer service, I called them one time because i was doing some intake manifold design and wanted to know the intake runner length in the dart pro1 heads i have. They laughed at me (literally) and told me they had no idea what the length is and this should have no effect on the design of my manifold, if it did i am using outdated methods of manifold design......... hmmmm...... really? I said "OK, get me the F'n length and i will be on my way using my outdated methods."

I am sure most aftermarket 23 deg heads are about the same, but i did not have the number, and in todays world of 3D cad, its a couple clicks away, afterall i have spent several K$ with them.....

a few days later they sent me the numbers.....

BTW, i run the little M, but i understand the SHP is a good compromise between stock and the M.

01-16-2010, 09:27 AM	#1
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 314 Likes: 5 Liked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Dart SHP Race block Any input out there on the Dart SHP race block, Pros and Cons vs the Dart Little M. SBC High 9 sec car 2800 lbs. __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

01-16-2010, 04:29 PM	#2
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Drew just got back from Billy T house and he bought 1 and is really pleased with block, he is building a 415 ci and block looks strong.

01-16-2010, 04:54 PM	#3
SlickVic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block The dart website says its only good for 600 hp, and i talked to a dart tech that said they are conservative and he would trust it to 700 hp. Now, i have seen a NOS equipped run almost 1000 hp on a SHP and have no problem and you could say the same about some stock gm blocks. Shop around for the little M's and you can get awesome prices. I was able to acquire a dart little M steel billet cap block for about 600$ more than the shp. Also the SHP can't be bored as big as the little M. __________________ 87 Cavalier, 92 Corvette, 72 Nova, 68 Firebird

01-16-2010, 06:21 PM	#4
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 314 Likes: 5 Liked 20 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Thanks for the input guys. I think I am going with the SHP. Dart tells me it is good for at least 700 HP and has way more meat and stronger than the GM blocks. (even the older high nickel blocks) I was leaning toward the Little M however the weight swayed me away as it is 40 -50 lbs heavier than my GM block which will mess up my chassis tune up. The SHP is only about 15 lbs more than my block. 50 lbs will put the snubbers on the frame. I doubt I will ever push more than 700 HP at it. BTW My compliments to Dart. The guy I spoke with spent a good hour on the phone with me and intellegently answered every important question I had. Great job Dart! Any other feed back, bring it on. Thanks __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

01-16-2010, 07:26 PM	#5
SlickVic Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 81 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Ship weight on my little m was like 205 i believe. Summit says SHP is 175 lbs. But i need all the weight i can get up front to keep the nose down! __________________ 87 Cavalier, 92 Corvette, 72 Nova, 68 Firebird

01-16-2010, 07:32 PM	#6
d1hitter Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: @ the track Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dart SHP Race block Longer IC will fix that problem.