my opinion

Don Kennedy · 12-02-2009, 01:59 PM

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Michael Beard · 12-02-2009, 02:17 PM

NO! Even with deep staging, it would generate a lot of problems for 'certain' combinations, and a handicapped Pro Tree generates problems regarding a 'clean tree' (even worse than Full tree), and people having to be on the converter forever on a long spot. Next thing you know, they'd want Starting Line Enhancers, etc., etc... Giant can of worms.

You can go run a handicapped Pro Tree at Beaver Springs on Friday nights, if you wish.

Just my opinion.

Chris1529 · 12-02-2009, 02:47 PM

what is a clean tree?

Ed Wright · 12-02-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris1529

what is a clean tree?

That is one without the other side coming down while your trying to watch your side. Slower call cars think it is a joke, but they don't have to give that many head starts to have to deal with it. I have talked to two other racers lately, both much better drivers than myself (ain't sayin much) and they told me they have a problem I have, that is the slower car leaving first often distracts you. Good lights come easier if your leaving first. But then you have no control at the finish line. There are advantages and disadvantges to both situations. Some like to throw out "you should FOCUS". But, "don't red light" could also be mentioned.

Chris1529 · 12-02-2009, 03:26 PM

thanks. I have only run a pro tree bracket race once, but I liked it.
It would probably be harder in a stock/superstock combo race than in each separate eliminator.
If I am not mistaken, this is how alot of the muscle car and mustang racing bodies do it though.

Ed Wright · 12-02-2009, 03:33 PM

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thanks. I have only run a pro tree bracket race once, but I liked it.
It would probably be harder in a stock/superstock combo race than in each separate eliminator.
If I am not mistaken, this is how alot of the muscle car and mustang racing bodies do it though.

A lot of people like it because most can't red light on a pro tree. One less mistake you can make, and some think they are so much quicker at the tree it would give them an advantage. Then guys figure out if they are running a car three or four tenths slower they can just leave when the other car does, and the slower guy is just screwed. Ran some AHRA races like that in the '70s wasn't fair to the slower cars.

Don Kennedy · 12-02-2009, 04:36 PM

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THE LEGEND · 12-02-2009, 05:31 PM

If they did that I would go back to Class racing in a Heartbeat.

Instead of PT why not allow delay boxes. Same thing.

Michael Beard · 12-02-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

The slower cars could deep stage if they wanted

Heck, you can't even do that now! People would have the same issues with Deep Stagers on a Pro Tree as they would on a Full Tree... only more so!

Don Kennedy · 12-02-2009, 06:49 PM

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Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: my opinion NO! Even with deep staging, it would generate a lot of problems for 'certain' combinations, and a handicapped Pro Tree generates problems regarding a 'clean tree' (even worse than Full tree), and people having to be on the converter forever on a long spot. Next thing you know, they'd want Starting Line Enhancers, etc., etc... Giant can of worms. You can go run a handicapped Pro Tree at Beaver Springs on Friday nights, if you wish. Just my opinion. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

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Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: my opinion what is a clean tree? __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

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Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: my opinion thanks. I have only run a pro tree bracket race once, but I liked it. It would probably be harder in a stock/superstock combo race than in each separate eliminator. If I am not mistaken, this is how alot of the muscle car and mustang racing bodies do it though. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

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