Bob Shaw is a bad man

Jamie Greening · 03-21-2009, 09:46 PM

Third round of CIC race 2.120 under U index. What a run.

Bench Racer · 03-22-2009, 07:10 AM

Wow, What was he driving?

fredjohnston · 03-22-2009, 07:12 AM

Bob Shaw needs to buy a practice tree.

The Hawk · 03-22-2009, 07:49 AM

Why do you say that Fred? Afterall,this weekend his average light between Class Elims and the CIC race is about a .460. I think just needs to try. Lane

442OLDS · 03-22-2009, 08:00 AM

If he would have stayed with brunch like he did in the first round,he would have been fine.When he decided to have breakfast AND lunch,he ran into a problem.

Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed
5159 Robert Shaw 4517 Patrick Courts
E1 ****WINNER**** 0.235 13.549 75.43 0.052 12.197 107.17
U/SA Index: 15.15 (+/-): -1.601 N/SA Index: 13.30 (+/-): -1.103
Qualified: #99 No Time #99 No Time

Shaw's Cadillac can run way under the index, so far under that he could have brunch before leaving the line, and still win.

X-TECH MAN · 03-22-2009, 09:15 AM

This is another example of how F##KED up the AHFS system is and how slow it is to respond to someone who scanns the class guide to find a slug combo that the average stock racer wouldnt race if it was the last car in the world. There are more such combos in the guide and its really not a sign of a good racer. Just someone who uses the system. A system that needs to be changed.

Bench Racer · 03-22-2009, 09:44 AM

Was this the red Cad he had at Indy?

Mike Carr · 03-22-2009, 09:50 AM

Gee Terry, thanks for ripping on some of the people that many DO consider to be not only "good racers", but great ones. I had a lot more to write, but I'll let it go.

Billy Nees · 03-22-2009, 10:10 AM

Terry, there's nothing all that wrong with the AHFS. Its the unqualified personel assigning the horsepower numbers to those "Slug Combos" that are "F##ed Up"! There's nothing wrong with using the guide to you're own benefit! At least the car is in the guide in black and white and really does exist as a combo! It seems to me that Bob is reading the black print on the white pages of the rule book and the classification guide the way that it was meant to be used! Terry, show me any gray areas here!

X-TECH MAN · 03-22-2009, 11:14 AM

I knew you guys would take it wrong......Im just pointing out the inequties of the current system. The combo should have been refactored a long time ago. No one cares at NHRA anymore. As far as Mr. Shaw is concerend he has found these combos for years and it dosent make you a better racer, car builder, engine builder, driver, or what ever to look thru the guide to pick a combo that should be running 3 or 4 classes higher than it currently is running. Its not his fault....hes just playing the game as it currently exists and it proves NOTHING except the combo needs HP and a lot of it..

03-21-2009, 09:46 PM	#1
Jamie Greening Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 45 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob Shaw is a bad man Third round of CIC race 2.120 under U index. What a run.

03-22-2009, 07:10 AM	#2
Bench Racer Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Green Creek (Tryon) North Carolina Posts: 331 Likes: 69 Liked 99 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Wow, What was he driving?

03-22-2009, 07:12 AM	#3
fredjohnston Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 341 Likes: 0 Liked 55 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Bob Shaw needs to buy a practice tree.

03-22-2009, 07:49 AM	#4
The Hawk VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton,Colorado Posts: 1,194 Likes: 0 Liked 249 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Why do you say that Fred? Afterall,this weekend his average light between Class Elims and the CIC race is about a .460. I think just needs to try. Lane __________________ Lane Weber It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It

03-22-2009, 08:00 AM	#5
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,339 Likes: 5 Liked 282 Times in 103 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man If he would have stayed with brunch like he did in the first round,he would have been fine.When he decided to have breakfast AND lunch,he ran into a problem. Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed-----Car#-Driver(Opp'nt)-RT-----ET-- Speed 5159 Robert Shaw 4517 Patrick Courts E1 **WINNER** 0.235 13.549 75.43 0.052 12.197 107.17 U/SA Index: 15.15 (+/-): -1.601 N/SA Index: 13.30 (+/-): -1.103 Qualified: #99 No Time #99 No Time Shaw's Cadillac can run way under the index, so far under that he could have brunch before leaving the line, and still win.

03-22-2009, 09:15 AM	#6
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man This is another example of how F##KED up the AHFS system is and how slow it is to respond to someone who scanns the class guide to find a slug combo that the average stock racer wouldnt race if it was the last car in the world. There are more such combos in the guide and its really not a sign of a good racer. Just someone who uses the system. A system that needs to be changed.

03-22-2009, 09:44 AM	#7
Bench Racer Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Green Creek (Tryon) North Carolina Posts: 331 Likes: 69 Liked 99 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Was this the red Cad he had at Indy?

03-22-2009, 09:50 AM	#8
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Gee Terry, thanks for ripping on some of the people that many DO consider to be not only "good racers", but great ones. I had a lot more to write, but I'll let it go. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

03-22-2009, 10:10 AM	#9
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,491 Likes: 3,594 Liked 7,708 Times in 1,736 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man Terry, there's nothing all that wrong with the AHFS. Its the unqualified personel assigning the horsepower numbers to those "Slug Combos" that are "F##ed Up"! There's nothing wrong with using the guide to you're own benefit! At least the car is in the guide in black and white and really does exist as a combo! It seems to me that Bob is reading the black print on the white pages of the rule book and the classification guide the way that it was meant to be used! Terry, show me any gray areas here! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS I'm not spending 100K to win 2K

03-22-2009, 11:14 AM	#10
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Bob Shaw is a bad man I knew you guys would take it wrong......Im just pointing out the inequties of the current system. The combo should have been refactored a long time ago. No one cares at NHRA anymore. As far as Mr. Shaw is concerend he has found these combos for years and it dosent make you a better racer, car builder, engine builder, driver, or what ever to look thru the guide to pick a combo that should be running 3 or 4 classes higher than it currently is running. Its not his fault....hes just playing the game as it currently exists and it proves NOTHING except the combo needs HP and a lot of it.. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 03-22-2009 at 11:17 AM.