Buyback Question

Pistol Pete · 10-19-2011, 04:10 PM

How does the buyback work in these big money bracket races ???

Say you have 140 cars for first rd. So that makes 70 winners.
Now 30 cars want to buy back in, do they run against themselves or are they
thrown in with the other 70 winners ???

So Second rd. would make 100 cars ?? is this right ???

Robert Simpson · 10-19-2011, 04:23 PM

Pete for the most part you are right. Some races, very few I have been to, have the first rd buy backs run each other then the winners fall back in line for rd 2 of the regular competition. But most of them if you loose 1st rd, or sometimes 2nd rd, you "buy back" and fall right into the next rd. I have raced the same guy 1st and 2nd rd before.. That is just the way it is. I believe that the tracks do it to increase revenue. When I was much younger, 1st rd loosers could enter a "Gamber race". You paid $10 and the purse was set by how many people bought into it. They would split winner and R/U and that was it.. Man how times have changed. Now I have never been in a race that has "Muligans", that is a different animal..LOL..

Robert

denbreeden · 10-19-2011, 04:50 PM

Our local track started the mulligan crap this year. I know a racer who paid to run pro, lost first round, paid $20 to buy back into second round, lost again, used his $25 mulligan card and lost third round. $80 to run three rounds, quite a deal, lol. I know the tracks need the revenue but it is a circus sometimes between double entries, buybacks and now mulligans.

Dennis Breeden
381B A/SA

Robert Simpson · 10-19-2011, 05:06 PM

Wow! a Mulligan and a buy back? Now that is crazy....I don't know how some of these guys can keep up with some of the things, double entry the same car (Different #) then have two possiable buy backs. Well that is the rules and you know going in.

THE LEGEND · 10-19-2011, 09:31 PM

No telling what you get anymore some things I saw over the years with BB
1) BB 1st and 2nd rd. Very common in NC
2) BB 1st or 2nd rd. Common also
3) 3 rds of BB if you are a points member
4) All BB (technically a re-entry) race one round then fall into the 2nd rd.
5) BB as many time as you want first rd as long as cars are still in the lanes. Crossville TN used to do that.
Some of the things I've seen.
Chip

Chris1529 · 10-19-2011, 09:58 PM

Kanawha Valley used to run the bb's down until there were 3 or 4 left then put them back into the race. I don't think they do that anymore.

10-19-2011, 04:10 PM	#1
Pistol Pete VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Punta Gorda Isles, Fl. Posts: 1,626 Likes: 3,397 Liked 779 Times in 209 Posts	Buyback Question How does the buyback work in these big money bracket races ??? Say you have 140 cars for first rd. So that makes 70 winners. Now 30 cars want to buy back in, do they run against themselves or are they thrown in with the other 70 winners ??? So Second rd. would make 100 cars ?? is this right ???

10-19-2011, 04:23 PM	#2
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 808 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Pete for the most part you are right. Some races, very few I have been to, have the first rd buy backs run each other then the winners fall back in line for rd 2 of the regular competition. But most of them if you loose 1st rd, or sometimes 2nd rd, you "buy back" and fall right into the next rd. I have raced the same guy 1st and 2nd rd before.. That is just the way it is. I believe that the tracks do it to increase revenue. When I was much younger, 1st rd loosers could enter a "Gamber race". You paid $10 and the purse was set by how many people bought into it. They would split winner and R/U and that was it.. Man how times have changed. Now I have never been in a race that has "Muligans", that is a different animal..LOL.. Robert

10-19-2011, 04:50 PM	#3
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 501 Likes: 147 Liked 61 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Our local track started the mulligan crap this year. I know a racer who paid to run pro, lost first round, paid $20 to buy back into second round, lost again, used his $25 mulligan card and lost third round. $80 to run three rounds, quite a deal, lol. I know the tracks need the revenue but it is a circus sometimes between double entries, buybacks and now mulligans. Dennis Breeden 381B A/SA

10-19-2011, 05:06 PM	#4
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 808 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Wow! a Mulligan and a buy back? Now that is crazy....I don't know how some of these guys can keep up with some of the things, double entry the same car (Different #) then have two possiable buy backs. Well that is the rules and you know going in.

10-19-2011, 09:31 PM	#5
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Buyback Question No telling what you get anymore some things I saw over the years with BB 1) BB 1st and 2nd rd. Very common in NC 2) BB 1st or 2nd rd. Common also 3) 3 rds of BB if you are a points member 4) All BB (technically a re-entry) race one round then fall into the 2nd rd. 5) BB as many time as you want first rd as long as cars are still in the lanes. Crossville TN used to do that. Some of the things I've seen. Chip

10-19-2011, 09:58 PM	#6
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Kanawha Valley used to run the bb's down until there were 3 or 4 left then put them back into the race. I don't think they do that anymore. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

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