Stock and Super Street....

Dano · 01-12-2020, 10:05 PM

Ok....speaking hypothetically You have a car that runs under index (0.5ish) in a stock auto car. Said car would cover super street by a couple #'s, you want to run the super street class without cutting up your BS/A car and still with little effort run the stock class. If you had this situation, what would "you" think the appropriate process would be to accomplish this? Don't worry about being rude with your suggestions. I can sift the wheat from the chaff………….

jmcarter · 01-12-2020, 10:13 PM

Assuming you don’t run over 135 MPH it’s just a matter of putting a S/ST number on it. But suggest if you don’t have a reliable method for hitting the 10.90 you could be a first round duck.

Dano · 01-12-2020, 10:22 PM

Hi Jim, more concerned with the launch aspect. My car heaves the line quite a bit on the launch with a steep rear gear, (5.13) How to control that without hindering the run? I see you run S/SS/SST?

Dano · 01-12-2020, 10:30 PM

car is cert'd 8.50...personally, licensed to SC

Dano · 01-12-2020, 11:02 PM

Crickets.....

Keith 944 · 01-13-2020, 08:14 AM

Should be fine. Worst part would be the .470 pro tree. Most quick stockers with the low trans gears would probably be fine. Need a diaper also

Tom Goldman · 01-13-2020, 10:36 AM

Marty Ganjoin runs a 69 camaro in D1 that is a "stocker " more than many legit Stockers. Calvert rear suspension on 9" tires and his car hits the tree with fairly large front tires, and hundreds of pounds over the 2800 minimum . I'd say around 26"inchers. Uses a small , 427 based big block. [ not Keiths version of a 427 !!]
Marty;s been A Division champion ,Jegs Allstar ,MASSA Super Street champion with it ,so I'd say yes , you can easily do it.
Might take a little work to hit the tree to .00's ,but very doable .
The wheelstand is not a big issue and might just help with the reaction time on the Pro tree.
The biggest issue you might have is your competitors rushing to stage first against you since they know you''re footbraking .

Lenny5160 · 01-13-2020, 04:49 PM

The staging lane directors point me to the Stock lanes all the time. 9" radials, CalTracs, 3600 lbs, 28" frontrunners. I carry .050-.060 in the delay box but that is with a Pro tree transbrake and I won the division title in it in 2015.

I can't speak to all of the particulars of the car, but the #2 finisher in D5 this past season has small tires, is heavy, and uses weight and shift point to hit the number.

I'm not sure what it would be like to hit the tree off the foot, but I agree that there isn't anything else that sounds like a concern.

t.tosto · 01-13-2020, 07:07 PM

My brother Vince won Div. 5 Open @ KCIR some years ago w/ 1967 Camaro, 355", Jerico, 9" tires. No electronics, just adj. weight, ran 10.90@125. Eventually ran same car in A/S W/396/375, car weight 3400#. We had a blast.

jmcarter · 01-13-2020, 07:16 PM

Years ago I used weights to hit the number...four straight dead-ons, that was a very good day but there was no wind to deal with. When conditions were trickier I’d have to hold a bunch, changing timers is a whole lot easier.

Should be no problem with the.470 pro tree.

01-12-2020, 10:05 PM	#1
Dano Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hurricane, Utah Posts: 156 Likes: 36 Liked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Stock and Super Street.... Ok....speaking hypothetically You have a car that runs under index (0.5ish) in a stock auto car. Said car would cover super street by a couple #'s, you want to run the super street class without cutting up your BS/A car and still with little effort run the stock class. If you had this situation, what would "you" think the appropriate process would be to accomplish this? Don't worry about being rude with your suggestions. I can sift the wheat from the chaff…………. __________________ SC 707Y

01-12-2020, 10:22 PM	#3
Dano Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hurricane, Utah Posts: 156 Likes: 36 Liked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... Hi Jim, more concerned with the launch aspect. My car heaves the line quite a bit on the launch with a steep rear gear, (5.13) How to control that without hindering the run? I see you run S/SS/SST? __________________ SC 707Y

01-12-2020, 10:30 PM	#4
Dano Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hurricane, Utah Posts: 156 Likes: 36 Liked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... car is cert'd 8.50...personally, licensed to SC __________________ SC 707Y Last edited by Dano; 01-12-2020 at 10:48 PM. Reason: added info

01-12-2020, 11:02 PM	#5
Dano Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Hurricane, Utah Posts: 156 Likes: 36 Liked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... Crickets..... __________________ SC 707Y

01-13-2020, 08:14 AM	#6
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,192 Likes: 1,160 Liked 1,874 Times in 576 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... Should be fine. Worst part would be the .470 pro tree. Most quick stockers with the low trans gears would probably be fine. Need a diaper also __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2-1/2 X somebody Still many X nobody Last edited by Keith 944; 01-13-2020 at 08:16 AM.

01-12-2020, 10:13 PM	#2
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,290 Likes: 2,359 Liked 3,162 Times in 967 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... Assuming you don’t run over 135 MPH it’s just a matter of putting a S/ST number on it. But suggest if you don’t have a reliable method for hitting the 10.90 you could be a first round duck. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

01-13-2020, 10:36 AM	#7
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,474 Likes: 884 Liked 858 Times in 234 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... Marty Ganjoin runs a 69 camaro in D1 that is a "stocker " more than many legit Stockers. Calvert rear suspension on 9" tires and his car hits the tree with fairly large front tires, and hundreds of pounds over the 2800 minimum . I'd say around 26"inchers. Uses a small , 427 based big block. [ not Keiths version of a 427 !!] Marty;s been A Division champion ,Jegs Allstar ,MASSA Super Street champion with it ,so I'd say yes , you can easily do it. Might take a little work to hit the tree to .00's ,but very doable . The wheelstand is not a big issue and might just help with the reaction time on the Pro tree. The biggest issue you might have is your competitors rushing to stage first against you since they know you''re footbraking . __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK Last edited by Tom Goldman; 01-13-2020 at 10:42 AM.

01-13-2020, 04:49 PM	#8
Lenny5160 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Inver Grove Heights, MN Posts: 898 Likes: 604 Liked 431 Times in 224 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... The staging lane directors point me to the Stock lanes all the time. 9" radials, CalTracs, 3600 lbs, 28" frontrunners. I carry .050-.060 in the delay box but that is with a Pro tree transbrake and I won the division title in it in 2015. I can't speak to all of the particulars of the car, but the #2 finisher in D5 this past season has small tires, is heavy, and uses weight and shift point to hit the number. I'm not sure what it would be like to hit the tree off the foot, but I agree that there isn't anything else that sounds like a concern. __________________ S/ST 51 S/C 53

01-13-2020, 07:07 PM	#9
t.tosto Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 154 Likes: 116 Liked 62 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... My brother Vince won Div. 5 Open @ KCIR some years ago w/ 1967 Camaro, 355", Jerico, 9" tires. No electronics, just adj. weight, ran 10.90@125. Eventually ran same car in A/S W/396/375, car weight 3400#. We had a blast.

01-13-2020, 07:16 PM	#10
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,290 Likes: 2,359 Liked 3,162 Times in 967 Posts	Re: Stock and Super Street.... Years ago I used weights to hit the number...four straight dead-ons, that was a very good day but there was no wind to deal with. When conditions were trickier I’d have to hold a bunch, changing timers is a whole lot easier. Should be no problem with the.470 pro tree. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table