I have a few questions?

sox · 08-30-2013, 01:28 PM

How far do they make you go during a teardown.I was thinking about getting into Stock Racing.Im not a Super Motor Man.I guess I have another question.What if you cant put the Motor back together after a teardown because your skills are limited.Say for instance you go buy a Turnkey Car and have to go to the Barn,as you guys call it and cant put it back together.What then.Just wondering.I hope this is not a Stupid set of questions.

Jim Cimarolli · 08-30-2013, 01:35 PM

Most of the time a teardown consists of pulling one head. They can ask to see a piston and rod out of the motor if they choose to. If you can't do your own work there is usually another racer that will help you. But, if you can't get the car back together its just a no show for the first round.

5919 SSKA · 08-30-2013, 01:40 PM

Carb or throttle body, intake, cylinder head. Remove one valve for Tech to pour alcohol in the chamber to measure CC. Then they will check stroke while your head is off, measure your head gasket and check wheelbase.

As said above, usually there are a few racer's more than willing to pitch in.

TOM KASCH · 08-30-2013, 01:42 PM

YOU HAD TO TAKE ONE HEAD OFF PULL VALUE OUT , THEY WOULD LOOK INSIDE YOUR INTAKE, IF IT WAS A Q-JET CARB THEY MIGHT MAKE YOU TAKE IT APART, DO A BORE & STROKE ON YOUR ENGINE, CHECK THE CC'S OF YOUR HEAD,ETC
i WAS CLOSE A LOT OF TIMES ,BUT MADE IT THOU, TRY AND HAVE A FRIEND WHO KNOWS MORE THAN YOU HELP, iT DOES HAPPEN THAT YOU BUY A CAR AND GO TO THE BARN IN THE 1ST YR VERY OFTEN
good luck buying a car, but thats only the 1/2 of it.trailer ..parts...some thing to tow with and the list goes on & on
The money keeps going out and not much back in return but knowing you did it/

TOM KASCH · 08-30-2013, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by MikeFicacci
As some of you know, Ken Miele drives our three valve stocker. After winning class, Ken got an invitation to the barn and was just kicked out for having head studs in the engine. That was my fault as we were previously told that studs were ok to use in an aluminum block engine as the factory torque-to-yield bolts are one use only and can get to be expensive. I tried to explain my case to NHRA but it fell of deaf ears. Needless to say, the "rules" seem to change day by day and it was my fault for not changing them. Can't tell you how many guys were icing in the lanes, using dry ice in the lanes, dumping water in the lanes, and have incorrect pieces on the cars and get away with it. I simply got caught. Just want to say sorry to Kenny as he knew nothing about the internals of the engine.

Mike
here is another reason you dont want to join in the FUN !
It's not like it looks from the outside or stands, everyone watching say" I could do that"
BUT it's VERY Tuff to do it !

Julie Jordan · 08-30-2013, 07:04 PM

I went through teardown once. I was able to help with tearing the motor apart, retrieving tools, draining fuel, taking things to the tech trailer. When we were done we had a box of parts that needed to go back on or in the motor. Nothing I could do then but watch! Thank you, Don!! lol

Glenn Person · 08-30-2013, 07:24 PM

Julie
Now I know why you keep him supplied with cookies! Missing you all, Glenn

Randall Klein · 08-30-2013, 07:30 PM

The randomness, terror and fear and loathing associated with teardown are a BIG difference between class racing and those that sneer "it's just a bracket race"

Bench Racer · 08-30-2013, 07:58 PM

My brothers first time at Indy several years ago with a 400 Chevy he got to pull a head, a piston and rod (which required pulling the engine before the cross member was "fixed" for removal of the pan) and the Q jet was left in pieces after inspection. and the part number was requested off the crankshaft. I was afraid they might be checking prostates too! Thank God they didn't take it that far lol!! Don Jackson

Barnstorm · 08-30-2013, 08:35 PM

Earlville is no fun...on the blacktop next to tech, no shelter...ask Randy Hopkins and others.

08-30-2013, 01:28 PM	#1
sox Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 99 Likes: 21 Liked 13 Times in 8 Posts	I have a few questions? How far do they make you go during a teardown.I was thinking about getting into Stock Racing.Im not a Super Motor Man.I guess I have another question.What if you cant put the Motor back together after a teardown because your skills are limited.Say for instance you go buy a Turnkey Car and have to go to the Barn,as you guys call it and cant put it back together.What then.Just wondering.I hope this is not a Stupid set of questions.

08-30-2013, 01:35 PM	#2
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 742 Likes: 146 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? Most of the time a teardown consists of pulling one head. They can ask to see a piston and rod out of the motor if they choose to. If you can't do your own work there is usually another racer that will help you. But, if you can't get the car back together its just a no show for the first round.

08-30-2013, 01:40 PM	#3
5919 SSKA Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sauk Rapids, MN Posts: 284 Likes: 20 Liked 19 Times in 5 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? Carb or throttle body, intake, cylinder head. Remove one valve for Tech to pour alcohol in the chamber to measure CC. Then they will check stroke while your head is off, measure your head gasket and check wheelbase. As said above, usually there are a few racer's more than willing to pitch in. __________________ Racing web page

08-30-2013, 01:42 PM	#4
TOM KASCH VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TOLEDO,OHIO Posts: 1,735 Likes: 0 Liked 241 Times in 100 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? YOU HAD TO TAKE ONE HEAD OFF PULL VALUE OUT , THEY WOULD LOOK INSIDE YOUR INTAKE, IF IT WAS A Q-JET CARB THEY MIGHT MAKE YOU TAKE IT APART, DO A BORE & STROKE ON YOUR ENGINE, CHECK THE CC'S OF YOUR HEAD,ETC i WAS CLOSE A LOT OF TIMES ,BUT MADE IT THOU, TRY AND HAVE A FRIEND WHO KNOWS MORE THAN YOU HELP, iT DOES HAPPEN THAT YOU BUY A CAR AND GO TO THE BARN IN THE 1ST YR VERY OFTEN good luck buying a car, but thats only the 1/2 of it.trailer ..parts...some thing to tow with and the list goes on & on The money keeps going out and not much back in return but knowing you did it/

08-30-2013, 06:57 PM	#5
TOM KASCH VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TOLEDO,OHIO Posts: 1,735 Likes: 0 Liked 241 Times in 100 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? Originally Posted by MikeFicacci As some of you know, Ken Miele drives our three valve stocker. After winning class, Ken got an invitation to the barn and was just kicked out for having head studs in the engine. That was my fault as we were previously told that studs were ok to use in an aluminum block engine as the factory torque-to-yield bolts are one use only and can get to be expensive. I tried to explain my case to NHRA but it fell of deaf ears. Needless to say, the "rules" seem to change day by day and it was my fault for not changing them. Can't tell you how many guys were icing in the lanes, using dry ice in the lanes, dumping water in the lanes, and have incorrect pieces on the cars and get away with it. I simply got caught. Just want to say sorry to Kenny as he knew nothing about the internals of the engine. Mike here is another reason you dont want to join in the FUN ! It's not like it looks from the outside or stands, everyone watching say" I could do that" BUT it's VERY Tuff to do it ! Last edited by TOM KASCH; 08-30-2013 at 07:24 PM.

08-30-2013, 07:04 PM	#6
Julie Jordan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 637 Likes: 90 Liked 510 Times in 92 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? I went through teardown once. I was able to help with tearing the motor apart, retrieving tools, draining fuel, taking things to the tech trailer. When we were done we had a box of parts that needed to go back on or in the motor. Nothing I could do then but watch! Thank you, Don!! lol __________________ Julie Jordan 7549 STK

08-30-2013, 07:24 PM	#7
Glenn Person Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Regina, Canada Posts: 29 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? Julie Now I know why you keep him supplied with cookies! Missing you all, Glenn __________________ Glenn Person 5356 STK

08-30-2013, 07:30 PM	#8
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? The randomness, terror and fear and loathing associated with teardown are a BIG difference between class racing and those that sneer "it's just a bracket race"

08-30-2013, 07:58 PM	#9
Bench Racer Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Green Creek (Tryon) North Carolina Posts: 331 Likes: 69 Liked 99 Times in 21 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? My brothers first time at Indy several years ago with a 400 Chevy he got to pull a head, a piston and rod (which required pulling the engine before the cross member was "fixed" for removal of the pan) and the Q jet was left in pieces after inspection. and the part number was requested off the crankshaft. I was afraid they might be checking prostates too! Thank God they didn't take it that far lol!! Don Jackson

08-30-2013, 08:35 PM	#10
Barnstorm Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Minnesota Posts: 186 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I have a few questions? Earlville is no fun...on the blacktop next to tech, no shelter...ask Randy Hopkins and others.