NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket

Lynn A McCarty · 07-17-2013, 01:53 PM

I was at Joliet last weekend watching all the heads up racing. There was enthusiasm in the air.

Beginning of this year, I tried to sponsor a SStock/Stock combo where we ran practice Friday, heads up on Saturday, usual bracket on Sunday? I was consummately turned down.

Why is it they want 2 or 3 days of boring practice? NMCA has stolen the limelight that used to be in NHRA. There is absolutely no good reason for it. We could run one practice run and the rest is still practice only you are running heads up. If you don't want that just use it as a practice run, then resume the regular bracket race on Sunday.

I for one probably need the practice more than anyone, but 2-3 days boring. Girly men need to man up ;-)

Pistol Pete · 07-17-2013, 03:37 PM

Did anyone question NHRA' motive for running 8 cars at the Englishtown Nationals in
the 11.50 Heads up bracket ???

Will this be S/SS way for the future ????
No tear down for 1. No fuel check, No weight check.

1/2 second intervals, 1 second intervals.?????

Makes ya wonder what's in store in years to come.??

Jim Craig · 07-17-2013, 03:46 PM

You actually contacted Promedia to sponsor a Stock/Super Stock shootout within their events -- good for you, I told them years ago that they need to attract more class racers and perhaps if you keep pushing it could happen.

Nitro Joe did it with NSCA years ago, started off very well attended events and Joe did a great job keeping it all together....it did help that Tony Dipillo owned the organization but the class shoot out sort of fell by the way side.....not sure why.

The NMCA organization is exceptionally well funded, well ran and I believe has more contingency sponsors than LODRS..............all you guys that seem to be disgruntled with the way you're treated now, I recommend contacting the management at ProMedia and see what you can put together for 2014. Might just be beneficial to both parties

Lynn A McCarty · 07-17-2013, 07:51 PM

No Jim it wasnt them. It was the Pontiac race in Norwalk. I thought heads up racing against other Pontiacs with small blocks, big blocks would be eye opening for Pontiac guys at the level of performance. Besides I also thought it would be something to attract some fast cars and not the usual boring 3 days of practice. They have one weight per cubic inch deal and it is the most popular.

You want to make points races popular, then some testosterone supplement is needed. Bracket Racing at the end is OK, but what is wrong with really adding to the over all enhancement of our racing experience? It wouldnt be that hard.

Thanks for the heads up (ha) Jim, I will call them. If the Pontiac guys dont want to do it maybe we can get something else going. It makes zero sense to me why NHRA doesnt do it, or we dont do it ourselves. Alex's race in 2001 we all ran heads up against the index, it was so cool, then we could bracket race on Sunday as usual. It is so simple, I guess it makes too much sense.

nssracer · 07-17-2013, 07:52 PM

I race NSS in this series. They are very professional and a lot of fun to race with.

Lynn A McCarty · 07-17-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nssracer

I race NSS in this series. They are very professional and a lot of fun to race with.

That is so cool! I love those wagons! Joliet NMCA had tons of high performance manufacturors. Nothing short on investment money, this is where stock and super stock started, it was so cool.

randy wilson · 07-17-2013, 09:43 PM

Don't everyone get all bulled up, but bracket racing killed the fan appeal. It is, what it is. I remember in the 70's, drag racing was America's Number 1 motor sport. Not any more.

ALMACK · 07-18-2013, 07:17 AM

I ran the NMCA last year at Bowling Green with my Pure Stocker.
Thinking about doing it again this year with the Stocker T-Bird.

Both cars fit the EFI index class. (1/2 second index spacing--.500 Pro Tree start)

I've often wondered how nice it would be if there was a Class Racer "showcase" race that the NMCA/NMRA would have where we could show those fans these type of cars.

Steve Lackey · 07-18-2013, 04:13 PM

This is a great idea, I bet there's some stick shift stockers that could run in Mean Street or have there own event. I was at Joliet as well and they put on a great show.

Jim Craig · 07-19-2013, 08:47 AM

now you guys are thinking...............the management at NMRA / NMCA are open to a lot of things and they are approachable. My recommendation is to contact Steve Wolcott @ ProMedia and see if there is something that can be done -- the ideal track for this (at least to start the experiment) would be Norwalk. At this time, both NMRA & NMCA hold events there and well.......its.....Norwalk.

Good Luck

07-17-2013, 01:53 PM	#1
Lynn A McCarty Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Plainfield (INDY) Indiana Posts: 468 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket I was at Joliet last weekend watching all the heads up racing. There was enthusiasm in the air. Beginning of this year, I tried to sponsor a SStock/Stock combo where we ran practice Friday, heads up on Saturday, usual bracket on Sunday? I was consummately turned down. Why is it they want 2 or 3 days of boring practice? NMCA has stolen the limelight that used to be in NHRA. There is absolutely no good reason for it. We could run one practice run and the rest is still practice only you are running heads up. If you don't want that just use it as a practice run, then resume the regular bracket race on Sunday. I for one probably need the practice more than anyone, but 2-3 days boring. Girly men need to man up ;-) __________________ Lynn A McCarty 3470 SS Last edited by Lynn A McCarty; 07-17-2013 at 07:27 PM.

07-17-2013, 03:37 PM	#2
Pistol Pete VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Punta Gorda Isles, Fl. Posts: 1,626 Likes: 3,397 Liked 779 Times in 209 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket Did anyone question NHRA' motive for running 8 cars at the Englishtown Nationals in the 11.50 Heads up bracket ??? Will this be S/SS way for the future ???? No tear down for 1. No fuel check, No weight check. 1/2 second intervals, 1 second intervals.????? Makes ya wonder what's in store in years to come.?? __________________ "Pistol" Pete Dutko

07-17-2013, 03:46 PM	#3
Jim Craig Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clinton, OH Posts: 106 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket You actually contacted Promedia to sponsor a Stock/Super Stock shootout within their events -- good for you, I told them years ago that they need to attract more class racers and perhaps if you keep pushing it could happen. Nitro Joe did it with NSCA years ago, started off very well attended events and Joe did a great job keeping it all together....it did help that Tony Dipillo owned the organization but the class shoot out sort of fell by the way side.....not sure why. The NMCA organization is exceptionally well funded, well ran and I believe has more contingency sponsors than LODRS..............all you guys that seem to be disgruntled with the way you're treated now, I recommend contacting the management at ProMedia and see what you can put together for 2014. Might just be beneficial to both parties

07-17-2013, 07:51 PM	#4
Lynn A McCarty Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Plainfield (INDY) Indiana Posts: 468 Likes: 1 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket No Jim it wasnt them. It was the Pontiac race in Norwalk. I thought heads up racing against other Pontiacs with small blocks, big blocks would be eye opening for Pontiac guys at the level of performance. Besides I also thought it would be something to attract some fast cars and not the usual boring 3 days of practice. They have one weight per cubic inch deal and it is the most popular. You want to make points races popular, then some testosterone supplement is needed. Bracket Racing at the end is OK, but what is wrong with really adding to the over all enhancement of our racing experience? It wouldnt be that hard. Thanks for the heads up (ha) Jim, I will call them. If the Pontiac guys dont want to do it maybe we can get something else going. It makes zero sense to me why NHRA doesnt do it, or we dont do it ourselves. Alex's race in 2001 we all ran heads up against the index, it was so cool, then we could bracket race on Sunday as usual. It is so simple, I guess it makes too much sense. __________________ Lynn A McCarty 3470 SS Last edited by Lynn A McCarty; 07-17-2013 at 07:58 PM.

07-17-2013, 07:52 PM	#5
nssracer Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 254 Likes: 25 Liked 207 Times in 23 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket I race NSS in this series. They are very professional and a lot of fun to race with. Attached Thumbnails

07-17-2013, 09:43 PM	#7
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket Don't everyone get all bulled up, but bracket racing killed the fan appeal. It is, what it is. I remember in the 70's, drag racing was America's Number 1 motor sport. Not any more. __________________ don,t have one

07-18-2013, 07:17 AM	#8
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket I ran the NMCA last year at Bowling Green with my Pure Stocker. Thinking about doing it again this year with the Stocker T-Bird. Both cars fit the EFI index class. (1/2 second index spacing--.500 Pro Tree start) I've often wondered how nice it would be if there was a Class Racer "showcase" race that the NMCA/NMRA would have where we could show those fans these type of cars. __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT Last edited by ALMACK; 07-18-2013 at 07:19 AM.

07-18-2013, 04:13 PM	#9
Steve Lackey Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Columbus, IN Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket This is a great idea, I bet there's some stick shift stockers that could run in Mean Street or have there own event. I was at Joliet as well and they put on a great show.

07-19-2013, 08:47 AM	#10
Jim Craig Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Clinton, OH Posts: 106 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: NHRA/NMCA heads up vs bracket now you guys are thinking...............the management at NMRA / NMCA are open to a lot of things and they are approachable. My recommendation is to contact Steve Wolcott @ ProMedia and see if there is something that can be done -- the ideal track for this (at least to start the experiment) would be Norwalk. At this time, both NMRA & NMCA hold events there and well.......its.....Norwalk. Good Luck