Buyback Question

Pistol Pete · 10-19-2011, 04:10 PM

How does the buyback work in these big money bracket races ???

Say you have 140 cars for first rd. So that makes 70 winners.
Now 30 cars want to buy back in, do they run against themselves or are they
thrown in with the other 70 winners ???

So Second rd. would make 100 cars ?? is this right ???

Robert Simpson · 10-19-2011, 04:23 PM

Pete for the most part you are right. Some races, very few I have been to, have the first rd buy backs run each other then the winners fall back in line for rd 2 of the regular competition. But most of them if you loose 1st rd, or sometimes 2nd rd, you "buy back" and fall right into the next rd. I have raced the same guy 1st and 2nd rd before.. That is just the way it is. I believe that the tracks do it to increase revenue. When I was much younger, 1st rd loosers could enter a "Gamber race". You paid $10 and the purse was set by how many people bought into it. They would split winner and R/U and that was it.. Man how times have changed. Now I have never been in a race that has "Muligans", that is a different animal..LOL..

Robert

denbreeden · 10-19-2011, 04:50 PM

Our local track started the mulligan crap this year. I know a racer who paid to run pro, lost first round, paid $20 to buy back into second round, lost again, used his $25 mulligan card and lost third round. $80 to run three rounds, quite a deal, lol. I know the tracks need the revenue but it is a circus sometimes between double entries, buybacks and now mulligans.

Dennis Breeden
381B A/SA

Robert Simpson · 10-19-2011, 05:06 PM

Wow! a Mulligan and a buy back? Now that is crazy....I don't know how some of these guys can keep up with some of the things, double entry the same car (Different #) then have two possiable buy backs. Well that is the rules and you know going in.

THE LEGEND · 10-19-2011, 09:31 PM

No telling what you get anymore some things I saw over the years with BB
1) BB 1st and 2nd rd. Very common in NC
2) BB 1st or 2nd rd. Common also
3) 3 rds of BB if you are a points member
4) All BB (technically a re-entry) race one round then fall into the 2nd rd.
5) BB as many time as you want first rd as long as cars are still in the lanes. Crossville TN used to do that.
Some of the things I've seen.
Chip

Chris1529 · 10-19-2011, 09:58 PM

Kanawha Valley used to run the bb's down until there were 3 or 4 left then put them back into the race. I don't think they do that anymore.

Jim Wahl · 10-19-2011, 11:25 PM

BB's are BS! Jim

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Mike Carr · 10-19-2011, 11:36 PM

Buy-backs: drag racing's version of NASCAR's Lucky Dog.

novassdude · 10-20-2011, 12:18 PM

Stupidest one I have ever seen. The track decided at the last minute to have buy backs. First round had already run when they decided this. So they ran second round then the people that bought back in went straight to the third round. Buy back was $25 race paid $30 to third round looser. So if you lost First round they basically paid you $5 to try again. If you won first and lost second you were sol.
Personally I can’t stand them. I understand why tracks do it but I would much rather see the second chance races that some tracks do.

Mike Carr · 10-20-2011, 12:25 PM

There was a track and/or race once I read about that had a "wildcard" buy back. You could buy-back at ANY time during the event. So, say you and I raced in the final. Neither one of us had used our BB. If I won, you'd buyback, and we'd re-run. If you won, I could buy-back and we'd re-run again. The winner of the third race would be the winner.

That might have been the worst idea ever.

10-19-2011, 04:10 PM	#1
Pistol Pete VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Punta Gorda Isles, Fl. Posts: 1,626 Likes: 3,397 Liked 779 Times in 209 Posts	Buyback Question How does the buyback work in these big money bracket races ??? Say you have 140 cars for first rd. So that makes 70 winners. Now 30 cars want to buy back in, do they run against themselves or are they thrown in with the other 70 winners ??? So Second rd. would make 100 cars ?? is this right ???

10-19-2011, 04:23 PM	#2
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 808 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Pete for the most part you are right. Some races, very few I have been to, have the first rd buy backs run each other then the winners fall back in line for rd 2 of the regular competition. But most of them if you loose 1st rd, or sometimes 2nd rd, you "buy back" and fall right into the next rd. I have raced the same guy 1st and 2nd rd before.. That is just the way it is. I believe that the tracks do it to increase revenue. When I was much younger, 1st rd loosers could enter a "Gamber race". You paid $10 and the purse was set by how many people bought into it. They would split winner and R/U and that was it.. Man how times have changed. Now I have never been in a race that has "Muligans", that is a different animal..LOL.. Robert

10-19-2011, 04:50 PM	#3
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 501 Likes: 147 Liked 61 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Our local track started the mulligan crap this year. I know a racer who paid to run pro, lost first round, paid $20 to buy back into second round, lost again, used his $25 mulligan card and lost third round. $80 to run three rounds, quite a deal, lol. I know the tracks need the revenue but it is a circus sometimes between double entries, buybacks and now mulligans. Dennis Breeden 381B A/SA

10-19-2011, 05:06 PM	#4
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 808 Likes: 7 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Wow! a Mulligan and a buy back? Now that is crazy....I don't know how some of these guys can keep up with some of the things, double entry the same car (Different #) then have two possiable buy backs. Well that is the rules and you know going in.

10-19-2011, 09:31 PM	#5
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Buyback Question No telling what you get anymore some things I saw over the years with BB 1) BB 1st and 2nd rd. Very common in NC 2) BB 1st or 2nd rd. Common also 3) 3 rds of BB if you are a points member 4) All BB (technically a re-entry) race one round then fall into the 2nd rd. 5) BB as many time as you want first rd as long as cars are still in the lanes. Crossville TN used to do that. Some of the things I've seen. Chip

10-19-2011, 09:58 PM	#6
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Kanawha Valley used to run the bb's down until there were 3 or 4 left then put them back into the race. I don't think they do that anymore. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350

10-19-2011, 11:25 PM	#7
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Buyback Question BB's are BS! Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

10-19-2011, 11:36 PM	#8
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Buy-backs: drag racing's version of NASCAR's Lucky Dog. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

10-20-2011, 12:18 PM	#9
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Buyback Question Stupidest one I have ever seen. The track decided at the last minute to have buy backs. First round had already run when they decided this. So they ran second round then the people that bought back in went straight to the third round. Buy back was $25 race paid $30 to third round looser. So if you lost First round they basically paid you $5 to try again. If you won first and lost second you were sol. Personally I can’t stand them. I understand why tracks do it but I would much rather see the second chance races that some tracks do.

10-20-2011, 12:25 PM	#10
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Buyback Question There was a track and/or race once I read about that had a "wildcard" buy back. You could buy-back at ANY time during the event. So, say you and I raced in the final. Neither one of us had used our BB. If I won, you'd buyback, and we'd re-run. If you won, I could buy-back and we'd re-run again. The winner of the third race would be the winner. That might have been the worst idea ever. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912