Indy Class Pairings

CBS · 07-26-2011, 02:48 PM

How would you like to pair up the class elimination pairs in Indy this year? I think it should be a Pro Ladder... What do you guys think?

Larry Hill · 07-26-2011, 03:32 PM

Usually the higher qualified car before 1st round of class gets the bye if there is one, then the majority rules on how to pair up. I like taking a deck of cards with pairs for as many competitors as there are in the class. Then the 2s run each other and so on. This is the Al Corda method. It seems to work out very well. If someone has had a bye, they aren't eligible for another bye until everyone has had one.

Jeff Teuton · 07-26-2011, 07:02 PM

Line up and whine. I like that. A funny story. Last time I ran my 69 super bee in C/SA, I just drove to the front as I was the slowest out of 13 cars. It didn't matter and it was in the way of beer drinking. Everyone was so focused on drawing numbers, getting position, I was just sitting there and they forgot about me. I almost had the bye, but cooler heads prevailed and someone beat the stuffing out of me. It was different last year with the DP.

Jim Wahl · 07-26-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Line up and whine. I like that. A funny story. Last time I ran my 69 super bee in C/SA, I just drove to the front as I was the slowest out of 13 cars. It didn't matter and it was in the way of beer drinking. Everyone was so focused on drawing numbers, getting position, I was just sitting there and they forgot about me. I almost had the bye, but cooler heads prevailed and someone beat the stuffing out of me. It was different last year with the DP.

Now there is an understatement! Jim

Greg Hill · 07-26-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton

Line up and whine. I like that. A funny story. Last time I ran my 69 super bee in C/SA, I just drove to the front as I was the slowest out of 13 cars. It didn't matter and it was in the way of beer drinking. Everyone was so focused on drawing numbers, getting position, I was just sitting there and they forgot about me. I almost had the bye, but cooler heads prevailed and someone beat the stuffing out of me. It was different last year with the DP.

Jeff, should I get out the violin and play a sad song?

Jeff Teuton · 07-26-2011, 08:49 PM

Maybe if you played for my old car I might still have it. Where was all that concern then? I guess it's ok for me to get whipped, but not the opposite.

RULER · 07-26-2011, 08:57 PM

If you whip somebody with almost anything but a DP or CJ then you would get some Respect, But you'll get none with this type of car unless your running against one of the same!!!!!!!

thomas sheehan · 07-26-2011, 09:13 PM

I too carry a deck of cards in the race car just for this occasion.

The ladder system (sportsman or pro) only benefits the fastest cars in qualifying prior to class elims.
If you are not the fastest, there is a chance of the fastest two cars running rd 1, thus eliminating the fact that a slower car would have to upset two cars instead of 1. The upsets at Indy (holeshots, etc.) make Class elims at Indy a "Don't Miss" day.

Don't mess with a good thing!.... it ain't broke! (don't fix it!)

Jeff Teuton · 07-26-2011, 09:25 PM

So it's ok for an old car to have a hp advantage over the field, but not a new car. Interesting theory. Bob Dennis will be happy to know that.

Jim Bailey · 07-26-2011, 09:36 PM

Jeff, not sure it's gonna matter this year,.. for you. Everybody's gonna be "hiding" and you're going to end up a single ... in the combo Class Eliminator . JB.

View Poll Results: How would you pair up the cars for Indy Class this year?
Sportsman Ladder	48	32.88%
Pro Ladder	35	23.97%
Draw Straws	37	25.34%
Just line up and whine	29	19.86%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll

07-26-2011, 02:48 PM	#1
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Indy Class Pairings How would you like to pair up the class elimination pairs in Indy this year? I think it should be a Pro Ladder... What do you guys think? Last edited by CBS; 07-26-2011 at 02:53 PM.

07-26-2011, 03:32 PM	#2
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,629 Likes: 1,919 Liked 10,681 Times in 2,222 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings Usually the higher qualified car before 1st round of class gets the bye if there is one, then the majority rules on how to pair up. I like taking a deck of cards with pairs for as many competitors as there are in the class. Then the 2s run each other and so on. This is the Al Corda method. It seems to work out very well. If someone has had a bye, they aren't eligible for another bye until everyone has had one. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

07-26-2011, 07:02 PM	#3
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings Line up and whine. I like that. A funny story. Last time I ran my 69 super bee in C/SA, I just drove to the front as I was the slowest out of 13 cars. It didn't matter and it was in the way of beer drinking. Everyone was so focused on drawing numbers, getting position, I was just sitting there and they forgot about me. I almost had the bye, but cooler heads prevailed and someone beat the stuffing out of me. It was different last year with the DP. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

07-26-2011, 08:49 PM	#6
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings Maybe if you played for my old car I might still have it. Where was all that concern then? I guess it's ok for me to get whipped, but not the opposite. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

07-26-2011, 08:57 PM	#7
RULER Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 221 Likes: 15 Liked 58 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings If you whip somebody with almost anything but a DP or CJ then you would get some Respect, But you'll get none with this type of car unless your running against one of the same!!!!!!!

07-26-2011, 09:13 PM	#8
thomas sheehan Photographer Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,717 Likes: 24 Liked 75 Times in 29 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings I too carry a deck of cards in the race car just for this occasion. The ladder system (sportsman or pro) only benefits the fastest cars in qualifying prior to class elims. If you are not the fastest, there is a chance of the fastest two cars running rd 1, thus eliminating the fact that a slower car would have to upset two cars instead of 1. The upsets at Indy (holeshots, etc.) make Class elims at Indy a "Don't Miss" day. Don't mess with a good thing!.... it ain't broke! (don't fix it!) __________________ Tom Sheehan SS GT/NA 1046

07-26-2011, 09:25 PM	#9
Jeff Teuton VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houma, LA Posts: 2,717 Likes: 2 Liked 325 Times in 50 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings So it's ok for an old car to have a hp advantage over the field, but not a new car. Interesting theory. Bob Dennis will be happy to know that. __________________ Jeff Teuton 4022 STK

07-26-2011, 09:36 PM	#10
Jim Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 674 Likes: 15 Liked 584 Times in 94 Posts	Re: Indy Class Pairings Jeff, not sure it's gonna matter this year,.. for you. Everybody's gonna be "hiding" and you're going to end up a single ... in the combo Class Eliminator . JB.