NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ?????

Bobby Brannon · 02-23-2010, 04:50 PM

OK new members, What is your take on what NHRA is doing to all racers concering the "HAZMAT" deal. Please for at least the first 20 or so responses let it the members from each division.

Please post your division.

Thanks

Mike Crutchfield · 02-23-2010, 08:07 PM

Hey Bobby
My take on the hazmat deal is NHRA is protecting their *** and shifting liablity to the racers. In the eyes of a property owner and business operator it's probably not a bad idea. Do I like it? No. I think it sucks. Is there anything I or any other member can do about it ? Stay home a be miserable.
It appears from what I have read so far that only Gainesville and Atlanta is totally effected so far. Something must have triggered this deal and they are afraid of getting a big fine or getting shut down. I can tell you from experience they don't want the EPA or any related agency on there property. They will find a problem before they leave no matter how clean it is. Just my take on the deal.

Thanks
Mike C
D2 SRAC Member

Bobby Brannon · 02-24-2010, 12:21 PM

Mike I am shocked that no one replied on this. What good is the council if noboby want's to discuss this.

CBS · 02-24-2010, 12:31 PM

I don't care for it either....but its not surprising....at my business the city comes in and checks for all kinds of materials once a year....and my insurance company does too...

I like to use the good brake clean like everybody else....but how much do we really use at the track....so not a big deal....

Rock Haas
D3 SRAC rep

Jim Wahl · 02-24-2010, 12:53 PM

Mike is right. There was something that just didn't smell right at Gainesville. When you entered the track they handed you a three page pamphlet that contained one page of rules and regs on oil etc. One page that you MUST sign saying you had read and agree to the rules and fines in order to compete. And one advertisement page of HazMat materials for sale by a new sponsor company. No doubt NHRA gets a cut from the sales. Prices were huge for disposal and you had a $45 "membership" fee on top of it all. Jim

Bobby Brannon · 02-24-2010, 03:02 PM

Point being is that you can carry 5 qts of oil into track but if you change your oil at the track you can not put the used oil in qt. bottles the new oil was in. ????????????????

Gary Smith · 02-24-2010, 03:11 PM

Especially when the local auto parts takes used oil for free. There's certainly something stinky going on here.

What disturbs me most is it's Florida. What else is lurking and who is profiting from it?

"Unregistered" Div 2

tim worner · 02-24-2010, 03:42 PM

Who brings barrels of solvent to the races? Who rebuilds their engines after every run. Also, who dumps the most oil and fuel on the track? We all know the answers. The couple of cans of brake clean we carry and an oil change for a class run doesn't amount to much does it? Again it's made to look like the sportsman are making a big mess at the track. We can all do a better job of cleaning up our pit area before we leave but I have never seen any sportsman mess to compare to what most pros leave behind. We always carry a container for used oil and such since we burn waste oil at our shop. We have gone through 600+ gals so far this season. So look us up if you need to get rid of some.

7820 · 02-24-2010, 03:55 PM

WOW!!!!

No doubt that all NHRA scantioned tracks will implement this and do it quickly.

voltdr · 02-24-2010, 07:43 PM

Mike and Rock. Thanks for responsible replies. Here's another way to look at it. If the EPA gets involved it will get expensive. If any of our businesses got a visit and (fined) from the EPA about improper material in our trash we would monitor our trash better to make sure we don't have to pay for someone else disposing of things in our trash. All of us can do a better job of keeping our area clean. If we all would only worry about our small area then the big picture would take care of itself. After watching the NHRA power point, I realize that it is a good idea to puncture a hole in my empty aerosol cans. That way they don't blow up in someone elses face. We can't change the policy just do our part to CYA.

02-23-2010, 04:50 PM	#1
Bobby Brannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bossier City,La. Posts: 659 Likes: 3 Liked 103 Times in 35 Posts	NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? OK new members, What is your take on what NHRA is doing to all racers concering the "HAZMAT" deal. Please for at least the first 20 or so responses let it the members from each division. Please post your division. Thanks __________________ Bobby Brannon 4705 STK, SS

02-23-2010, 08:07 PM	#2
Mike Crutchfield Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 84 Likes: 3 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Hey Bobby My take on the hazmat deal is NHRA is protecting their *** and shifting liablity to the racers. In the eyes of a property owner and business operator it's probably not a bad idea. Do I like it? No. I think it sucks. Is there anything I or any other member can do about it ? Stay home a be miserable. It appears from what I have read so far that only Gainesville and Atlanta is totally effected so far. Something must have triggered this deal and they are afraid of getting a big fine or getting shut down. I can tell you from experience they don't want the EPA or any related agency on there property. They will find a problem before they leave no matter how clean it is. Just my take on the deal. Thanks Mike C D2 SRAC Member

02-24-2010, 12:21 PM	#3
Bobby Brannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bossier City,La. Posts: 659 Likes: 3 Liked 103 Times in 35 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Mike I am shocked that no one replied on this. What good is the council if noboby want's to discuss this. __________________ Bobby Brannon 4705 STK, SS

02-24-2010, 12:31 PM	#4
CBS VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Commerce, Mi Posts: 1,387 Likes: 1 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? I don't care for it either....but its not surprising....at my business the city comes in and checks for all kinds of materials once a year....and my insurance company does too... I like to use the good brake clean like everybody else....but how much do we really use at the track....so not a big deal.... Rock Haas D3 SRAC rep

02-24-2010, 12:53 PM	#5
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,844 Likes: 666 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Mike is right. There was something that just didn't smell right at Gainesville. When you entered the track they handed you a three page pamphlet that contained one page of rules and regs on oil etc. One page that you MUST sign saying you had read and agree to the rules and fines in order to compete. And one advertisement page of HazMat materials for sale by a new sponsor company. No doubt NHRA gets a cut from the sales. Prices were huge for disposal and you had a $45 "membership" fee on top of it all. Jim __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association.

02-24-2010, 03:02 PM	#6
Bobby Brannon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bossier City,La. Posts: 659 Likes: 3 Liked 103 Times in 35 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Point being is that you can carry 5 qts of oil into track but if you change your oil at the track you can not put the used oil in qt. bottles the new oil was in. ???????????????? __________________ Bobby Brannon 4705 STK, SS

02-24-2010, 03:11 PM	#7
Gary Smith Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 820 Likes: 9 Liked 132 Times in 30 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Especially when the local auto parts takes used oil for free. There's certainly something stinky going on here. What disturbs me most is it's Florida. What else is lurking and who is profiting from it? "Unregistered" Div 2 __________________ Gary Smith "another broke racer spectating"

02-24-2010, 03:42 PM	#8
tim worner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: duncannon Posts: 837 Likes: 14 Liked 126 Times in 20 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Who brings barrels of solvent to the races? Who rebuilds their engines after every run. Also, who dumps the most oil and fuel on the track? We all know the answers. The couple of cans of brake clean we carry and an oil change for a class run doesn't amount to much does it? Again it's made to look like the sportsman are making a big mess at the track. We can all do a better job of cleaning up our pit area before we leave but I have never seen any sportsman mess to compare to what most pros leave behind. We always carry a container for used oil and such since we burn waste oil at our shop. We have gone through 600+ gals so far this season. So look us up if you need to get rid of some. __________________ Tim Worner SS 1747

02-24-2010, 03:55 PM	#9
7820 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 201 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? WOW!!!! No doubt that all NHRA scantioned tracks will implement this and do it quickly.

02-24-2010, 07:43 PM	#10
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 706 Likes: 77 Liked 100 Times in 51 Posts	Re: NHRA Sportsman Racer Advisory Council "HAZMAT" ????? Mike and Rock. Thanks for responsible replies. Here's another way to look at it. If the EPA gets involved it will get expensive. If any of our businesses got a visit and (fined) from the EPA about improper material in our trash we would monitor our trash better to make sure we don't have to pay for someone else disposing of things in our trash. All of us can do a better job of keeping our area clean. If we all would only worry about our small area then the big picture would take care of itself. After watching the NHRA power point, I realize that it is a good idea to puncture a hole in my empty aerosol cans. That way they don't blow up in someone elses face. We can't change the policy just do our part to CYA.