New hazmat rules

[Ed Fernandez]

Posted by someone on the 90s section:

Got to bradenton and if you changed your trans or motor oil, you had to take it with you when you left the track.no oil barrels. Got to gainesville and if you change oil you have to pay a hazmat team to remove it from the track. You are not allowed to remove any oil or filters from the track in your trailers unless you have the proper equipment.hazmat must be owned by who ?

Put your seatbelts on,it's going to be a rough ride.

[W J]

"Big Brother" is watching every move you make....LIke Ed says, "Tighten up the harness, it's going to be a rough ride"...... WJ

[Ed Fernandez]

For anyone who likes to read about government gone wild,google the EPA and follow it's progression from an agency formed to protect us from harm,into a mega $ nightmare.
Incidently it was formed under Pres. Nixon.There after it became an environmentalist
tool to punish American industry.

[Joe DeMarzo]

Ed, is this geared twoard us little sportsman racer, the pro's or a blanket policy? I wonder if NHRA will put out a statement about the removal of dump sites at their events. Who is going to police the new policy? How is this any different than me bringing my used oil to a local repair shop who accepts oil? Any factual insights would help us all.

[Pete Beau]

Could it be that the EPA has identified environment issues regarding nitro cars, etc. and this is a plea bargain deal to calm down the hounds?

I love my country but fear my government!

[FLOYD RUSSO JR]

this stuff is goin way 2 far !! knockin out the sportsman class morn an more crazy!!!!!!!

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Joe DeMarzo

Ed, is this geared twoard us little sportsman racer, the pro's or a blanket policy? I wonder if NHRA will put out a statement about the removal of dump sites at their events. Who is going to police the new policy? How is this any different than me bringing my used oil to a local repair shop who accepts oil? Any factual insights would help us all.

Joe,I just posted what I saw.I don't have the answers.Don't shoot the messenger.

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

Posted by someone on the 90s section:

Got to bradenton and if you changed your trans or motor oil, you had to take it with you when you left the track.no oil barrels. Got to gainesville and if you change oil you have to pay a hazmat team to remove it from the track. You are not allowed to remove any oil or filters from the track in your trailers unless you have the proper equipment.hazmat must be owned by who ?

Put your seatbelts on,it's going to be a rough ride.

At work, the City of Los Angeles fleet repair shop, we've been cautioned never to use spray brake clean where it goes into waste oil catch containers.Seems the chlorinated residue will contaminate the waste oil and the recycler that picks it up has a problem transporting and disposing of it.We still use it,not the aerosol spray,but the type that comes in a sealed gallon plastic jug and it goes into a spray can that has a Schraeder valve on it where it is charged with compressed air as a propellant. That seems to be the green way to go, as it would have fallen on us first if there was an environmental concern.We have to collect all spent aerosol cans for proper disposal by a vendor,as we do used coolant, oil,trans fluid, and even dirty shop rags. I'm glad that I don't own a shop,the cost of all this hazmat disposal must be a substantial percentage of a business' overhead.I'm all for eliminating pollution, hazard spills,etc. but when you can't even do your job,it's out of hand.I will be the first to say,having lived here for 51 of my 55 years, we don't even HAVE smog compared to what we had as a kid 40-50 years ago. Those big mountains behind the Pomona starting line wouldn't have been even visible at all then.We were out in Malibu having lunch a month or so ago, and could see Mount San Gorgonio out by Palm Springs. a distance of 150 miles, and it was pretty much a usual day. Fuel injection and better engine management systems have cleaned the air in L.A. more than all the little protesting green weenies out there.Now, if the al gores of the world would just sit in the corner and play with their little prius, and get out of the way, technology and industry could REALLY advance!!!

[Chris "drooze" Wertman]

Im not a "tree hugger" but I grew up in a rural area and respect the land.

I have well and septic and will forever here...and I like it, I dont want things getting into MY and I say MY litterally water table / cycle that are going to cause problems for me or my kids...

I have used and still do some "nasties" things carcinogenic and now illegal to purchase, I have a supply I use them only when needed and carefully.

BUT as I get older and certainly in the presence of my kids , some of this crap scares the crap out of me, not like cancer is a rare thing in my family.

But some of the "green" alternatives Ive found have better qualities I have really begun to like.....Given an alternative between a safe and EFFECTIVE alternative....the problem in MOST things has been the efficacy of the "green" alternatives.

Originally Posted by Greg Reimer 7376

At work, the City of Los Angeles fleet repair shop, we've been cautioned never to use spray brake clean where it goes into waste oil catch containers.Seems the chlorinated residue will contaminate the waste oil and the recycler that picks it up has a problem transporting and disposing of it.We still use it,not the aerosol spray,but the type that comes in a sealed gallon plastic jug and it goes into a spray can that has a Schraeder valve on it where it is charged with compressed air as a propellant. That seems to be the green way to go, as it would have fallen on us first if there was an environmental concern.We have to collect all spent aerosol cans for proper disposal by a vendor,as we do used coolant, oil,trans fluid, and even dirty shop rags. I'm glad that I don't own a shop,the cost of all this hazmat disposal must be a substantial percentage of a business' overhead.I'm all for eliminating pollution, hazard spills,etc. but when you can't even do your job,it's out of hand.I will be the first to say,having lived here for 51 of my 55 years, we don't even HAVE smog compared to what we had as a kid 40-50 years ago. Those big mountains behind the Pomona starting line wouldn't have been even visible at all then.We were out in Malibu having lunch a month or so ago, and could see Mount San Gorgonio out by Palm Springs. a distance of 150 miles, and it was pretty much a usual day. Fuel injection and better engine management systems have cleaned the air in L.A. more than all the little protesting green weenies out there.Now, if the al gores of the world would just sit in the corner and play with their little prius, and get out of the way, technology and industry could REALLY advance!!!

[Greg Reimer 7376]

When I was in the fifth grade in southern Oregon, our teacher led a good discussion of what 'conservation' meant. We discussed the options of settting aside land and not using it, which brought up the fact that that was'nt any good,and the lessons of the dust bowl during the depression came up, the 'move in,wear out,move on' philosophy,and we eventually came up with the definition that conservation meant"the wise and careful use of our natural resources".That meant eliminating wasteful practices,reforestation,(after all, trees are renewable,)and not using harmful products.Some of the green alternatives do work pretty well,and retiring some automotive chemicals are definitely wise,but new technology had to arise to replace old practices and proceedures.Liberalism works on emotionalism,hardly a reliable reaction(just ask anyone who is married),but good old conservative thought works on reality. The conservative capitalist line of thought is to take the reality of a situation, adapt to the change,invent new practices and products, and show a profit with your new industry as you meet the changing times. Sounds good and all-American to me!!