Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda

Cuda Jockey · 10-11-2009, 09:42 PM

I am currently racing my 70 cuda at the local track in NHRA pro bracket racing, the next year or so I would like to try super stock racing. My cuda is an old super stocker with a bracket master 545 indy motor. I have spent a ton of time and some money on the chassis and believe I have got that part somewhat figured out. I have been looking at the super stock rules and the factoring for all the classes. I cant determine which combo would have an advantage, the rules and super stock lingo are mind bogling if you dont know anything about it and if you dont have any help. I would love to do the street hemi combo but fear the money would get out of hand, particularly after the initial build I would like to stay in the 9s, the car currently has a best et of 9.54 at 140. Will a 440 keep my car in the 9s? Any advise would be greatly appreciated. I have a bunch of questions but I am trying to keep this somewhat short.

RJ · 10-12-2009, 05:14 AM

Call Eric Jones - his stuff owns the SS/EA & SS/FA records with the 440-6 combo.

X-TECH MAN · 10-12-2009, 07:12 AM

You could probably build 2 or 3 440's or 383's for what one Hemi would cost you but you woulnt have the "WAY COOL" factor. Check around at the cost before jumping in.

John Lang · 10-12-2009, 01:28 PM

A really kick butt Hemi for SS, will probably cost your first born ! Carbs to oil pan probably in the 60-70K range .You could build 2 1/2 wedge motors , which would also be kick butt engines, just in a lower class, and a lot less maint ! The voice of experiance, excuse the spelling !......... John

Cuda Jockey · 10-16-2009, 03:24 PM

I was thinking the street hemi would be alot less then a race hemi, I have heard of race hemis for 50,000 - 60,000. Is the hemi combo a good combo, or has it been hit with horsepower so many times it will take a lifetime to make it competitive? There was a great article in Drag Racing magazine on stock and superstock ahfs last month. It really shed some light on how the system works, did anybody else read this?

Jared Jordan · 10-16-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuda Jockey

I was thinking the street hemi would be alot less then a race hemi, I have heard of race hemis for 50,000 - 60,000. Is the hemi combo a good combo, or has it been hit with horsepower so many times it will take a lifetime to make it competitive? There was a great article in Drag Racing magazine on stock and superstock ahfs last month. It really shed some light on how the system works, did anybody else read this?

The Street Hemi combo is a good combo for those cars, but you're kidding yourself if you think it'll cost any less than the Race Hemi stuff. Only difference is the pistons and the carburetors. All the other stuff is the same $$$.

Cuda Jockey · 10-16-2009, 03:40 PM

Hey there Mr. Jordan, you are really raining on my parade. Well I would rather be informed now rather than half way thru a project I wouldnt be able to afford. Does anybody have any really enlightening good news

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Shawn Blair · 10-16-2009, 03:53 PM

I agree with Jared, It has two carters in line and a little less compression. That is really the only difference, but it's a very cool combo though!

X-TECH MAN · 10-16-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuda Jockey

Hey there Mr. Jordan, you are really raining on my parade. Well I would rather be informed now rather than half way thru a project I wouldnt be able to afford. Does anybody have any really enlightening good news

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Go with a 340, 383, or 440. The Hemi is a great engine but VERY expensive. You could also run one of the GT superstock classes with a newer engine combo like the 318 or 360 combos. If your LOADED with $$$$$$$ go with the Hemi.

W J · 10-16-2009, 05:45 PM

See if you can contact Dave Mann. He has some very good 440's out there.... WJ

10-11-2009, 09:42 PM	#1
Cuda Jockey Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda I am currently racing my 70 cuda at the local track in NHRA pro bracket racing, the next year or so I would like to try super stock racing. My cuda is an old super stocker with a bracket master 545 indy motor. I have spent a ton of time and some money on the chassis and believe I have got that part somewhat figured out. I have been looking at the super stock rules and the factoring for all the classes. I cant determine which combo would have an advantage, the rules and super stock lingo are mind bogling if you dont know anything about it and if you dont have any help. I would love to do the street hemi combo but fear the money would get out of hand, particularly after the initial build I would like to stay in the 9s, the car currently has a best et of 9.54 at 140. Will a 440 keep my car in the 9s? Any advise would be greatly appreciated. I have a bunch of questions but I am trying to keep this somewhat short.

10-12-2009, 05:14 AM	#2
RJ Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 248 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda Call Eric Jones - his stuff owns the SS/EA & SS/FA records with the 440-6 combo.

10-12-2009, 07:12 AM	#3
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda You could probably build 2 or 3 440's or 383's for what one Hemi would cost you but you woulnt have the "WAY COOL" factor. Check around at the cost before jumping in. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 10-12-2009 at 07:14 AM.

10-12-2009, 01:28 PM	#4
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda A really kick butt Hemi for SS, will probably cost your first born ! Carbs to oil pan probably in the 60-70K range .You could build 2 1/2 wedge motors , which would also be kick butt engines, just in a lower class, and a lot less maint ! The voice of experiance, excuse the spelling !......... John __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

10-16-2009, 03:24 PM	#5
Cuda Jockey Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda I was thinking the street hemi would be alot less then a race hemi, I have heard of race hemis for 50,000 - 60,000. Is the hemi combo a good combo, or has it been hit with horsepower so many times it will take a lifetime to make it competitive? There was a great article in Drag Racing magazine on stock and superstock ahfs last month. It really shed some light on how the system works, did anybody else read this?

10-16-2009, 03:40 PM	#7
Cuda Jockey Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda Hey there Mr. Jordan, you are really raining on my parade. Well I would rather be informed now rather than half way thru a project I wouldnt be able to afford. Does anybody have any really enlightening good news.

10-16-2009, 03:53 PM	#8
Shawn Blair Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Everson, WA. Posts: 122 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda I agree with Jared, It has two carters in line and a little less compression. That is really the only difference, but it's a very cool combo though! __________________ Shawn Blair 6383 SS 634 STK

10-16-2009, 05:45 PM	#10
W J Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Paxton, Massachusetts Posts: 638 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Help on Engine Combo for 70 cuda See if you can contact Dave Mann. He has some very good 440's out there.... WJ