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Originally Posted by sammy christian
pretty tough talk from "silver fox", use your real name jackass. if you don't recognize me by name, you must not have been racing in western NY very long.
i have never been a points member at that dump,(or gravel pit as most people know it), i don't waste my time there much since the downturn it took a few years ago.
car counts there have been dropping for years, as people realized everything was being geared toward street cars and money in bob's pocket. this was long before the economy began affecting racing.
everyone is entitled to their opinion, but facts show that people are tired of the same old crap. all of us that have been around long enough, and have been to tracks around the country, can see the difference. it's funny how the people that hate lancaster are usually also the same ones that think things were fine at nyirp. lancaster has had several different owners and is still thriving. the difference is that real racers can make due with 1 or 2 time trials and race without making a mess out of an entire day.
if racing at nyirp is all you know, it's time to get out more.
as far as getting personal about vito and sylvia, that shows alot about you, maybe you and all the other people that can't deal with change are the real problem. HAVE YOU EVER WON A RACE OR EVEN A ROUND AT ANOTHER TRACK? DOUBT IT.
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Truth usually is tough talk.
I said I did not recognize it ( your name) as a weekly points racer. Learn how to read.
And since you admittedly only went ONCE late in the season you are in no position to comment on how good or bad a job the change in ownership brought to the facility. Bob and Donna have run the place over 20 years, Vito could not hack it one, Or should I say his wife because if you had been going there you would know she ran everything and he was hard to even find. Yea I have a problem with change, as you would if it were change for the worse. Bob might not be the best but he is a hell of alot better than what NYIRP got in 08.
Lancaster was not thriving, they were on the verge of closure and extinction. And to be totally honest if it were not for those STREET cars on a Wed. night filling those pockets they would hardly be "thriving" at all.
If it takes street cars to keep a facility open then so be it. You are just another super pro driver that thinks that your entrance fee is more important than the next guy.
That is the nice thing about a properly run bracket racing program, there is room for everyone at every level. Not just a dwindling field of fast cars with nobody to fill the future because the owner only gives the time of day to a select few.
Do everyone a favor and go to your tracks around the country. I cannot speak for Bob but to me I am sure your once a year entry would be a good trade off for a few street cars that do not whine and complain about everything. The stones are a problem but no more of a problem than stock car parts on the oval at Lancaster.There is always a paid paved pit space. Same as any other track.
As for winning races, I know of people that have raced a long long time and never won a race, some hardly ever getting out of a first round. That does not make their money any less green than the next guy and it certainly does not make thier opinion any less important.
If you do not like it there, stop trashing it and don't go. It is not like you went and supported Vito or Bob anyway.
Again, WELCOME BACK BOB AND DONNA!!