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Old 06-26-2023, 09:45 PM   #187
Jeff Niceswanger
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Default Re: The Fall f the United States, The End

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Originally Posted by SStockDart View Post
Jeff, I don't think that is what he is asking. Why don't the members pay the union themselves? Send the union a check weekly or monthly or give the union secretary cash from their pay each week? Instead of requiring the employer the expense of doing it?

I believe that was a tongue in cheek question that we all know the answer to.

Jeff, I left my "Union Busting" days behind me a long time ago. Friend to friend, you might want to stop rationalizing the Union activities to yourself. You will sleep better.
I think I answered that question fully Gary. The Union wants no part of being a bill collector if the company is in agreement of payroll deduction. And they are. We never had any issues with automatic deductions. Just like the company doesn't care if you want to send 50 bucks a week to the boy or girl scouts, or your credit union. Its your money,,,its not an issue for them to set up automatic withdraw. Its a one and done deal. I just cant see the difference between something like it and Healthcare payments. I don't think you would expect all of us to send our monthly payments for Blue Cross Blue Shied (for our healthcare) by sending a check, would you? It's automatically withdrawn, just like the unions.
Gary, I sleep just fine. I will always side on the side of the little guys. A good union will always work hard for them. A Union is the "Local". You keep emphasizing the International. The International supplied us with Attorneys for our negotiations and arbitrations, trainers for our stewards, training for the financial secretary, and had district Reps be at every Union meeting to answer questions my members might have. I put on 3 meetings every month. One for 1st shift, 2nd shift and 3rd. The Rep was also there with me. But all the proposals for future contract language, all the wishes and desires (usually pipe dreams) came from those local meetings. The negotiating committees for the local consisted of members of our group, elected by us guys. In our case, Unions are small groups of men/women using the union as one voice. That's it. The international just helps us. And we chose if... and who's cases was Arbitrated. Our Local never lost an arbitration case because of this fact. If we had the language and they screwed over us and ignored the contract that they agreed to, we made them pay, dearly. Nope, I always slept fine.


I dug up an article after one of our contracts. Notice the Q-Jet Performance Tee Shirt !

https://www.ueunion.org/ue-news/2012...p-concessions-
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