CLASS RACER FORUM - View Single Post - Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

oldskool · 10-30-2021, 05:38 PM

"...NOTE this has some implications for Ben Wolf's car from Spring 69...a 69 Firebird RA4 factored at 380hp does not fit B/SA=8.00.

And, a 68 Firebird RA2 only fits if factored to 395hp or higher.

Would a RA2 be factored HIGHER than a RA4?.."

I don't have a clue what the NHRA hp factors were back in the old days. Where do you guys come up with that info ???

I've posted pics of both a '68 & '69 Bird marked B/SA. I know that the '69 was bought brand new, with a Ram Air 4 engine, by Phil Monteith.

BUT, I don't know what year the pics were made.

I do know that Phil switched the car over to SS, after a little while. Phil Is still quite active in Pontiac racing. As you may or may not know, Peter Biondo won at least 3 SS championships driving Phil Monteith's Pontiac powered GT Birds.

If you could contact Phil, I'll bet he could probably remember some facts from his early days with his '69 RA4 Bird.

Here's the latest FB page I can find for him. Don't look like he's active on it.

https://www.facebook.com/phillip.monteith.1

Mark Yacavone is one of his FB friends. He's active on his page & this forum. He can probably get you Phil's contact info.

Lynn McCarty is also a FB friend. He's active & knows LOTS of Pontiac racers. He can probably help you find most any Pontiac info you need, or knows somebody who does.

While thinkin about older Pontiac guys who might have info, the biggest name that comes to mind, is Bob Michael. He's built & raced more different Pontiac powered Stock & SS cars than anybody I know of.

He still has a couple of active stockers. One is a 389 Tri-Power '62 Grand Prix. The other is a '77 Catalina.

https://dragillustrated.com/life-lon...al-to-pontiac/

As you know, some guys seem willing to take time to talk about the old days & help you find info, but some don't. If Bob will talk, he's the guy I'd wanna talk to. He's had more Pontiac powered race experience than anybody I know of. And he knows all the other long time Pontiac racers. I think he's a member here. Can't remember his site name. Mark Yacavone will know.

Still thinkin. John Schloe still races a '69 Bird. Years ago, it had RA4 power. The story goes that he ruined a head. So, because of their rariety & price, he switched over to a D-port engine. But, he may have some good RA4 info, from years gone by. Not active on his FB page. But again, Mark Yacavone is a friend. So, he can probably provide contact info.

https://www.facebook.com/john.schloe.1/friends

John Angeles has raced a '69 RA4 Bird in SS, for years. He also co-wrote a Pontiac racing & performace book.

https://www.firebirdcentral.com/Pont...p/lit-2006.htm

His daughter, Keri, has done most of the driving, & was driving for it's 1st 9 sec pass, back in 2000, IIRC. Keri has a page, but is not active.

https://www.facebook.com/keri.pari

10-30-2021, 05:38 PM	#152
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68 "...NOTE this has some implications for Ben Wolf's car from Spring 69...a 69 Firebird RA4 factored at 380hp does not fit B/SA=8.00. And, a 68 Firebird RA2 only fits if factored to 395hp or higher. Would a RA2 be factored HIGHER than a RA4?.." I don't have a clue what the NHRA hp factors were back in the old days. Where do you guys come up with that info ??? I've posted pics of both a '68 & '69 Bird marked B/SA. I know that the '69 was bought brand new, with a Ram Air 4 engine, by Phil Monteith. BUT, I don't know what year the pics were made. I do know that Phil switched the car over to SS, after a little while. Phil Is still quite active in Pontiac racing. As you may or may not know, Peter Biondo won at least 3 SS championships driving Phil Monteith's Pontiac powered GT Birds. If you could contact Phil, I'll bet he could probably remember some facts from his early days with his '69 RA4 Bird. Here's the latest FB page I can find for him. Don't look like he's active on it. https://www.facebook.com/phillip.monteith.1 Mark Yacavone is one of his FB friends. He's active on his page & this forum. He can probably get you Phil's contact info. Lynn McCarty is also a FB friend. He's active & knows LOTS of Pontiac racers. He can probably help you find most any Pontiac info you need, or knows somebody who does. While thinkin about older Pontiac guys who might have info, the biggest name that comes to mind, is Bob Michael. He's built & raced more different Pontiac powered Stock & SS cars than anybody I know of. He still has a couple of active stockers. One is a 389 Tri-Power '62 Grand Prix. The other is a '77 Catalina. https://dragillustrated.com/life-lon...al-to-pontiac/ As you know, some guys seem willing to take time to talk about the old days & help you find info, but some don't. If Bob will talk, he's the guy I'd wanna talk to. He's had more Pontiac powered race experience than anybody I know of. And he knows all the other long time Pontiac racers. I think he's a member here. Can't remember his site name. Mark Yacavone will know. Still thinkin. John Schloe still races a '69 Bird. Years ago, it had RA4 power. The story goes that he ruined a head. So, because of their rariety & price, he switched over to a D-port engine. But, he may have some good RA4 info, from years gone by. Not active on his FB page. But again, Mark Yacavone is a friend. So, he can probably provide contact info. https://www.facebook.com/john.schloe.1/friends John Angeles has raced a '69 RA4 Bird in SS, for years. He also co-wrote a Pontiac racing & performace book. https://www.firebirdcentral.com/Pont...p/lit-2006.htm His daughter, Keri, has done most of the driving, & was driving for it's 1st 9 sec pass, back in 2000, IIRC. Keri has a page, but is not active. https://www.facebook.com/keri.pari Last edited by oldskool; 10-30-2021 at 06:31 PM.