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Wade what you must understand is that these guys are suffering from something very similar to spousal abuse syndrome if you offer them help or a way out or an alternative they will often back away and deny that the abuse is actually occurring, sometimes they will even go as far as to justify what their abuser is actually doing to them as is often illustrated by some of the post found on this forum. All you can do is continue to offer them support and maybe one day they will decide to escape their abuser but often times it is too late. James