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Rich osmond 04-24-2023 02:31 PM

Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
I am building a car for the NMCA Coyote stock class (sealed factory engine ~500HP, 3000# min weight, and g101a transmission). The cars 60' in the mid-1.30 range, and run ~9.7's. Nearly all of the cars in the class run 26" x 10" M/T stiff all slicks, but I am wondering if there is any advantage (or disadvantage) to running a 28" tire with the appropriate gearing. Any experience is appreciated!

Ralph A Powell 04-24-2023 02:57 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
What clutch and flywheel (steel or aluminum) and what 1st & 2nd gear ratio? A larger diameter will give you more contact area

Rich osmond 04-24-2023 03:19 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
Thanks. Aluminum flywheel, single clutch disc 10” min, but we can run a tamer. First gear ~ 3:1, second gear ~2:1. Appreciate the help.

Jim Caughlin 04-24-2023 05:34 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich osmond (Post 679462)
Thanks. Aluminum flywheel, single clutch disc 10” min, but we can run a tamer. First gear ~ 3:1, second gear ~2:1. Appreciate the help.

Oh boy, here we go again...

Rich osmond 04-24-2023 05:38 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
OK. I’m just seeking a little help. Thx

1347 04-24-2023 10:06 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
why wouldn't you put a 30x9 bias tire the Stick stocker guys run? i know thats why you are asking what to use, but I would think a 30x9 would give a much better contact patch over a 26x10.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 04-24-2023 10:17 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1347 (Post 679490)
why wouldn't you put a 30x9 bias tire the Stick stocker guys run? i know thats why you are asking what to use, but I would think a 30x9 would give a much better contact patch over a 26x10.

28s are the biggest they can run

James Hensler 04-25-2023 01:20 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
I used to run the 28x10.5 Stiff in Renegade. Back then we had to weigh 3000 and made more HP 850 but with a single disk Ram and a adjustable pressure plate I 60 footed 1.25 and ran 9.0’s a DOHC 4.6

I know this isn’t your combo but it’s about as close as you’re going to get here!

Rich osmond 04-25-2023 01:37 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
Thank you, James. This is very helpful and something I will consider. As you know, I will need to balance clutch slip, wheel speed, and rotating weight, so I will probably need to test with a short tire/gear package, vs a tall one. Thanks again.

Jim Caughlin 04-25-2023 04:50 PM

Re: Tire Help for Heads-up Manual Transmission Class
 
Stick to basic 'meat and potatoes' components that have been working for Stock class cars for years, Soft Lock, alum flywheel, G101 and the 10 x 28 should be plenty of tire to get you well into the 9 second range. Run the clutch as loose as you can get ways with and oh yeah, don't use the clutch to shift.


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