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tommy d 04-15-2023 11:15 AM

9" vs 12 bolt.
 
Could switching from a 12 bolt with a light spool to the Ford be 6-8 slower?

Alan Roehrich 04-15-2023 10:57 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
Apples to apples, the Ford stuff is heavier, and the Ford has a less efficient hypoid angle, so it absorbs more power there as well. There could be a multitude of other differences, in component weight, bearing drag, etc. Is it possible for it to be 0.06 in the quarter? I suppose. Depending upon the rest of the combination. There's definitely a reason Mark Williams and other companies make really expensive stuff to run a 12 bolt Chevy in a 9" housing.

tommy d 04-15-2023 11:08 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
I read 30lbs heavier and 3% h.p. loss due to increased friction. Figured you guys would know for sure. Thanks for the response.

Tom Goldman 04-17-2023 09:08 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
Many years ago my uncle owned one of the Defrank and Cohen Hemi 'Cudas. we would always put the 12 bolt axle under it for class ,heads up or record runs . I seem to remember .05-.08 difference .
Both were light weight in their day.

Jim Caughlin 04-18-2023 12:45 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
I don't think that Strange developed the 12 bolt drop out center section that fits into a 9" housing for the fun of it.

SSDiv6 04-18-2023 05:00 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 679162)
I don't think that Strange developed the 12 bolt drop out center section that fits into a 9" housing for the fun of it.

At one time, there was also a Ford 8.8" dropout to use on the 9" housing made by Chris Alston ChassisWorks. The 8.8" has the same load and drag characteristics as a 12-Bolt.

Ralph A Powell 04-18-2023 06:05 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Caughlin (Post 679162)
I don't think that Strange developed the 12 bolt drop out center section that fits into a 9" housing for the fun of it.

Yes Strange did develop the 12 bolt drop out. The did it for Ford racing as Ford wanted to run it on the restrictor plate tracks. Ford tested it on the cup cars but NASCAR wouldn’t approve it. Strange was building all the 9 inch’s Nodular case’s for Ford. Ford did not have a source to pour nodular after they shut down the Flat Rock Casting Foundry in late 1981. Strange also made the High Strength Steel Case that Ford was using in NASCAR up to the end of the 2021.

richie 2 04-19-2023 01:39 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
is it popular today in SS? strange 12blt case/9'' housing...

Dirk Olson 04-19-2023 01:49 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tommy d (Post 678937)
Could switching from a 12 bolt with a light spool to the Ford be 6-8 slower?

Better gear selection with the 9 bolt. and using a dewco center section with a 9.5 ring gear starts to level the playing field. Given the ease of gear change out, gear selection, it would hard to go to the 12 bolt unless class dictates it.

FED 387 04-19-2023 02:28 PM

Re: 9" vs 12 bolt.
 
DEWCO is great stuff only problem is Don the DEWCO owner has/had serious health problems might have a problem getting product---FED 387


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