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Another Friendly Racer 10-07-2007 12:55 PM

Undercover ported stock heads?
 
If NHRA can not police "undercover" ported heads in stock eliminator, why not just allow them? Its a shame that if you run a combo, especially higher classed combo's, you will not be competitive unless you cheat! Half the guys out there will flat out tell you that their heads have been played with. I understand the arguement that "stock means stock, we dont want to evolve into superstock", but the fact of the matter is that the heads out there are not stock. As a guy who prefers not to cheat, i'd like to see the rule changed. Does anyone else agree or disagree?

bsa633 10-07-2007 02:02 PM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
Actually i think it's better the way it is..everyone knows whats the common standard nowdays,if you open up the rule for porting i think we all be sorry,i suspect cost on the heads will go up that way and the spread between racers would be even bigger..some guys just have more money to play with!

Alan Roehrich 10-07-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
The solution to the use of illegal parts is NOT to make them legal.

Another Friendly Racer 10-07-2007 02:31 PM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
Well what would the solution be then? Talk about how tech needs to be able to enforce heads as we have for years, meanwhile the problem still exists. Its better how it is now? If everyone knows that its the common standard, why not just allow it? You wont have to port your heads to run under the index, you will just have to do so to be the fastest in your class. The undercover heads right now are plenty expensive, i dont believe this is a cost issue.

bsa633 10-07-2007 02:47 PM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Friendly Racer (Post 43125)
If everyone knows that its the common standard, why not just allow it? .

I think thats exactly how things are now!! Tech decides what goes,not the rulebook..it has showed time after time..

Alan Roehrich 10-07-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
Allowing ported heads will only increase the cost, both of the heads and of the short blocks that go under the ported heads, since porting the heads will only increase the RPM the engines operate at.

What illegal part will you want to make legal next? And after that? And where will you draw the line?

Adger Smith 10-07-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
I am old enough to remember back when a Tech official could & would toss you if he just didn't think it looked right. They had leadership that wasn't concerned with lawsuits & threats from engine builders or racers. At that time NHRA tech was run with an iron hand and from my vanatage point, for the good of the sport. Maybe they need to take a good look at the way Nascar does things. Nascar has Invested in people & technology to strengthen their form of racing. I think It is way past time to quit counting beans & invest a few of them in more than the bank. Remember, a tree grows strong with a good root system. At this point I don't see much conceren for the root system in drag racing, only picking the fruit.

JP 10-08-2007 01:36 AM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
That's well spoken!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 43133)
I am old enough to remember back when a Tech official could & would toss you if he just didn't think it looked right. They had leadership that wasn't concerned with lawsuits & threats from engine builders or racers. At that time NHRA tech was run with an iron hand and from my vanatage point, for the good of the sport. Maybe they need to take a good look at the way Nascar does things. Nascar has Invested in people & technology to strengthen their form of racing. I think It is way past time to quit counting beans & invest a few of them in more than the bank. Remember, a tree grows strong with a good root system. At this point I don't see much conceren for the root system in drag racing, only picking the fruit.


Greg Hill 10-08-2007 08:38 AM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
If they would just pour the runners in stock and use the super stock volumes a lot of the problem would disappear.

bsa633 10-08-2007 10:56 AM

Re: Undercover ported stock heads?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed OBrien (Post 43193)
For those of us that don't know the " common standard " What is it ? Have a nice day

I was under the impression that you really knew all about this ...


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