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JOE ZOOM 11-30-2015 05:14 PM

Going DEEP....
 
Does anyone know why NHRA has banned Deep Staging in stock?Force and Cruz are allowed yet a guy in a 14 second front wheel drive car can't.....makes no sense..... Joe Mocci ..m/sa

Greenlight 11-30-2015 05:32 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
You are going to have to look at the man in the mirror for the answer.


http://www.dragracingonline.com/goindeep/iv_5.html


In other words, "we have seen the enemy and he is from within".

Mark Yacavone 11-30-2015 05:53 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenlight (Post 489046)
You are going to have to look at the man in the mirror for the answer.


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Not necessarily.
You had people voting against,...who had higher class cars, or stick shift cars, that never deep staged or never needed to, voting against it
You even had some who didn't even understand the concept, and they were voting against it too.
It wasn't even close to a fair poll, or representation.


This is the takeaway line from my friend, the late Dale Wilson's article:

"Here is my take on it. If I were racing Stock or Super Stock, I wouldn't care what the guy in the other lane did, as long as I had a fair chance to stage and go. "

Bill Koski 11-30-2015 06:17 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
Just one more instance of the whiners and malcontents making enough noise to get their way!

MR DERBY CITY 11-30-2015 07:35 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
Deep staging and buttons on the steering wheel were outlawed because.....THEY didn't fit some racers AGENDAS........

Ed Wright 11-30-2015 07:52 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
You don't think it was because deep staging makes your ET show slower? You can run faster than the clocks show? Only very slow cars can get a green light doing that. What is right about some cars being able to actually break out, and not show it? The vast majority of cars can not get a green light that way. If it was ever put to a vote of the racers, it would lose.

JOE ZOOM 11-30-2015 08:28 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 489050)
Not necessarily.
You had people voting against,...who had higher class cars, or stick shift cars, that never deep staged or never needed to, voting against it
You even had some who didn't even understand the concept, and they were voting against it too.
It wasn't even close to a fair poll, or representation.


This is the takeaway line from my friend, the late Dale Wilson's article:

"Here is my take on it. If I were racing Stock or Super Stock, I wouldn't care what the guy in the other lane did, as long as I had a fair chance to stage and go. "

Well put Mark....you are spot on....Thanks,Joe Mocci

MR DERBY CITY 11-30-2015 08:30 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
Ed.....And you figured this out all on your own ? It was put to a vote, a select FEW voted to outlaw Deep Staging according to NHRA . Of course , NHRA also told us that there was a Break In at Wayne Co. Speed Shop years earlier sooo......pardon my skepticism

JOE ZOOM 11-30-2015 08:38 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
[QUOTE=Greenlight;489046]You are going to have to look at the man in the mirror for the answer.


http://www.dragracingonline.com/goindeep/iv_5.html


In other words, "we have seen the enemy and he is from within".[/QUOTE

When was the last time NHRA allowed racers to vote on anything?? Ps.great article. Joe Mocci

Ed Wright 11-30-2015 09:30 PM

Re: Going DEEP....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 489070)
Ed.....And you figured this out all on your own ? It was put to a vote, a select FEW voted to outlaw Deep Staging according to NHRA . Of course , NHRA also told us that there was a Break In at Wayne Co. Speed Shop years earlier sooo......pardon my skepticism

I never heard of a vote. If the racers voted, at least in SS, it would get voted down. Almost nobody could get a green light staging that deep. They don't make buttons THAT slow. LOL


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