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art leong 06-06-2013 09:47 AM

Fines this year?
 
Do you think NHRA is subsidising low car counts with fines?
$25,000 so far this year.

Rusty Davenport 06-06-2013 10:08 AM

Re: Fines this year?
 
The amount of money NHRA has collected on fines would not even show up on a graph of operating expenses. It can't be about money.

art leong 06-06-2013 10:30 AM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty Davenport (Post 384979)
The amount of money NHRA has collected on fines would not even show up on a graph of operating expenses. It can't be about money.

I said to subsidise not cover all operating expences.
If their car counts are off by 50 cars at $210 a car That's $10,500.

Mike Pearson 06-06-2013 10:31 AM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Probably just trying to copy NASCAR. The vast majority of the sportsman racers can not afford an exorbitant fine like the ones David and the Dennis's received. Both are heavily involved in the sport and I hope each of them get the fines reduced to an acceptable level by the appeals process. I don't think this is a good path for NHRA to follow.

njk53 06-06-2013 01:34 PM

Re: Fines this year?
 
If you are referring to the party that was fined $5,000 for a bogus SFI tag on the seat belts, in my opinion this is a stern message by the NHRA to anyone else that is thinking about trying it or something similar. They aren't going to tolerate stuff like this and rightfully so. The rules are the rules and it is your life and health. I don't agree with the 2 year re-cert rule but, I will abide by the rules until they are changed. It is only you that is going to get hurt and possibly seriously for a couple of hundred bucks. A hundred dollars a year is not worth it to me.

sc4400 06-06-2013 01:49 PM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by njk53 (Post 385026)
If you are referring to the party that was fined $5,000 for a bogus SFI tag on the seat belts, in my opinion this is a stern message by the NHRA to anyone else that is thinking about trying it or something similar. They aren't going to tolerate stuff like this and rightfully so. The rules are the rules and it is your life and health. I don't agree with the 2 year re-cert rule but, I will abide by the rules until they are changed. It is only you that is going to get hurt and possibly seriously for a couple of hundred bucks. A hundred dollars a year is not worth it to me.

It's human nature, no one wants to believe that real people could actually do some of the things they do. So when it's thrown in our face, the disbelief overpowers common sense. Fact is, we humans are capable of just about ANYTHING.

And sometimes......we get caught.

Yeah, I know, presumed innocent, I know. Sure. BUT, when you refuse to hand over the item in question, it's not hard to understand how doubts could arise.

NOT TO equate "A" to "B", but I watched a perfectly normal looking human being be executed several years ago. Google James Rexford Powell if you are skeptical. So I sadly know that more often then not, if it quacks like a duck, and has orange webbed feet, it's a duck.

Just sayin...

RIP

art leong 06-06-2013 02:17 PM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sc4400 (Post 385029)
It's human nature, no one wants to believe that real people could actually do some of the things they do. So when it's thrown in our face, the disbelief overpowers common sense. Fact is, we humans are capable of just about ANYTHING.

And sometimes......we get caught.

Yeah, I know, presumed innocent, I know. Sure. BUT, when you refuse to hand over the item in question, it's not hard to understand how doubts could arise.

NOT TO equate "A" to "B", but I watched a perfectly normal looking human being be executed several years ago. Google James Rexford Powell if you are skeptical. So I sadly know that more often then not, if it quacks like a duck, and has orange webbed feet, it's a duck.

Just sayin...

RIP

I've got one for you. I set a record at Atco NJ a few years back I had to pull a piston They took the piston back to the motel with them. And were going to send it to California because of their misprint.
I drove the car to the track. How was I supposed it get it home?
I lost my entry fee was not allowed to race. California finally agreed to the misprint. And I got the record. But never got an apoligy or my money back.
And BTW we are not talking about a few thousanths of an inch here. It was 3/8's of an inch. In deck height.
But the wonderful tech crew couldn't make a common sense decision

novassdude 06-08-2013 12:12 AM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Seen on a show today a Indy car driver got a $30,000 fine for flipping off a competitor that wrecked him.

bigshow2966 06-09-2013 05:22 PM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Just what has been levied for fines that is out of place? Do the crime, do the time.

Fighting in the Pro pits about someone's wife? Not very professional.

Stopping your car on track to yell at the track personnel? Not very bright.

Refusing to turn over a part being questioned? Might as well plead guilty.

If you don't like the NHRA's rules, pack your toys up and go run IHRA or ADRL.

Yes, it's really that simple.

art leong 06-09-2013 10:51 PM

Re: Fines this year?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigshow2966 (Post 385418)
Just what has been levied for fines that is out of place? Do the crime, do the time.

Fighting in the Pro pits about someone's wife? Not very professional.

Stopping your car on track to yell at the track personnel? Not very bright.

Refusing to turn over a part being questioned? Might as well plead guilty.

If you don't like the NHRA's rules, pack your toys up and go run IHRA or ADRL.

Yes, it's really that simple.

How about when they want to take a part you know darn well is legal?
Not that simple is it?
And yes I sold the car and will never ever race a stocker or regular superstocker again.


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