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bricki 09-18-2012 05:09 AM

Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Hi guys i am not having a lot of success racing slower cars
one and two seconds waiting for my side of the tree to activate
the tree catches me sleeping more often than not what can i
do to change this.
I use a delay box thought about leaving off second light but
on practice tree red and oo,s are the result,what can i do to
improve can you guys help me with the slow cars.
cheers.

Michael Kilduff 09-18-2012 07:11 AM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
If you are using a delay box can't you leave off your opponent's top/ first bulb?

bricki 09-18-2012 04:41 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Kilduff (Post 347169)
If you are using a delay box can't you leave off your opponent's top/ first bulb?

Hi Michael in Australia tree is blocked no crossing over you cant
see the other guys top or any bulb ,some tracks even show
reaction times on the finish line board makes it hard to play
games if your light is not as good as theirs.
Does any one have any ideas.
cheers.

Keith 944 09-18-2012 05:01 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bricki (Post 347288)
Hi Michael in Australia tree is blocked no crossing over you cant
see the other guys top or any bulb ,some tracks even show
reaction times on the finish line board makes it hard to play
games if your light is not as good as theirs.
Does any one have any ideas.
cheers.

best thing to do if this is the case, go off your bottom bulb. use a small amount of delay if you have to.

or, if you are good at finish line, dial slower then them, hit top bulb. bang! instant sand bagger! LMAO....

68camaroSS 09-18-2012 09:46 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bricki (Post 347162)
Hi guys i am not having a lot of success racing slower cars
one and two seconds waiting for my side of the tree to activate
the tree catches me sleeping more often than not what can i
do to change this.
I use a delay box thought about leaving off second light but
on practice tree red and oo,s are the result,what can i do to
improve can you guys help me with the slow cars.
cheers.

most, but not all tracks here use the Cross Talk feature. With that, it doesn't matter if your opponents tree is blocked or not, your top light will flash on at the same time as his does and it hang there lit up on your side until the proper time for it to start to count down depending on the ET difference of the two cars. In this case you would put in two setting in your delay box; First, your ET and your oppontent's ET, and secondly your delay, and go off your top bulb. The delay box calculates the difference between dials plus adds your delay setting.
If you don't have Cross Talk, and his tree is blocked, your tree will just count down at the appropriate time, then all you need to do is just put in your delay setting and go off the first flash of your top bulb. (do not put in the ET's, leave them at 0.) Using this method, you could use this same process, it doesn't matter whether you are the slower or faster car, cause you are not calculating any ET difference, only the delay from top bulb to green.

67champ 09-19-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
I would suggest spending more time on a practice tree. Top bulb, practice, practice, practice..... Every night you can before you go to bed or maybe at lunch break, etc. 10 minutes or more every day you can... Before long you should see improvements...

dt

Rob Petrie E395 09-19-2012 08:57 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 67champ (Post 347490)
I would suggest spending more time on a practice tree. Top bulb, practice, practice, practice..... Every night you can before you go to bed or maybe at lunch break, etc. 10 minutes or more every day you can... Before long you should see improvements...

dt

X2 Practice Practice Practice. Its just like sports in high school you need to practice everyday to get better.

bricki 09-19-2012 10:04 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Petrie E395 (Post 347516)
X2 Practice Practice Practice. Its just like sports in high school you need to practice everyday to get better.

Hey guys i do practice and am pretty good on the tree but iam very good when i leave first when i am the slower of the two cars its sitting
for up to 2 seconds waiting for my side of the tree to start that gets me
catches me not ready we dont have cross talk etc .
might have to start bagging dial same time as other guy if its slower than me leave together get ahead and back into him sounds easy do many of you guys do this with any succses.
cheers
ps i run 9.2 at 145mph the cars that i am having to wait for are 10.6

Keith 944 09-19-2012 10:55 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bricki (Post 347527)
Hey guys i do practice and am pretty good on the tree but iam very good when i leave first when i am the slower of the two cars its sitting
for up to 2 seconds waiting for my side of the tree to start that gets me
catches me not ready we don't have cross talk etc .
might have to start bagging dial same time as other guy if its slower than me leave together get ahead and back into him sounds easy do many of you guys do this with any success.
cheers
PS i run 9.2 at 145mph the cars that i am having to wait for are 10.6

don't dial the same, let him leave last, if he is top bulbing, he may have same issue.
OK, more info, i know exactly what you mean. early in the season we have some gamblers racing. they block tree and don't use cross talk (to even things out for foot brake vs delay). i agree, after leaving first or with cross talk, or even during time trials you get used to about a second from both staged to before your top bulb comes on. if it doesn't then it will affect your reactions. i found leaving first every time gave me a huge advantage. my lights stayed same as time trials, opponents (top bulbers) were missing tree badly. i used a t-stop and dialed a pre-determined slow time. going into the finals i had the bye run. watched the two cars race, one was a 7 sec dragster the other a 11 sec car. the 11 sec car won. i took the other lane for my bye (in case i lost the choice to him) slowed my car to a 13 sec pass. in the finals he was way late, mainly because he had been the slower car all day, till then!
p.s. to those top bulbers responding without running on a tree like this, you have no idea what he is talking about. remember this is why we had crossover, and now have cross talk...

bricki 09-20-2012 04:43 PM

Re: Fast vs Slow Bracket Racing.
 
Keith you know what i am talking about thanks for your replys
always interested in being better .
Love trying new things over here everyone dials honest nobody
holds most dont even move their head once they leave.


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