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Jeff Teuton 08-19-2012 10:30 AM

Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
As the rest of the nation is dry, I sit here watching it flood us. 3.91 inches yesterday, looking about that today with lightning, so I thought I would count cars. So far before the switching, changing, etc., looks like 15 available for FS/S (don't know how many actuall), A/SA 18 (good race), E/SA 7 (good race), 25 SS/AH Cudas & Darts, always a good race, 10 in G/SA (always fun). Not a scientific study. Full field in each class even if all the AH cars go home after class which leads to another question that can only be answered by the high level of education, knowledge, and general racing experience possessed by the members of this forum. Should the AH guys be asked to declare they are going home and taken off the final paring and a ladder then prepared, or should they just not show and pull up alternates as they don't show. Changes the ladder a bit. More as the numbers come in.

Ed Wright 08-19-2012 11:31 AM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
I don't think they should be on the ladder if not going to race.

Chuck Comella 08-19-2012 11:39 AM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 341544)
As the rest of the nation is dry, I sit here watching it flood us. 3.91 inches yesterday, looking about that today with lightning, so I thought I would count cars. So far before the switching, changing, etc., looks like 15 available for FS/S (don't know how many actuall), A/SA 18 (good race), E/SA 7 (good race), 25 SS/AH Cudas & Darts, always a good race, 10 in G/SA (always fun). Not a scientific study. Full field in each class even if all the AH cars go home after class which leads to another question that can only be answered by the high level of education, knowledge, and general racing experience possessed by the members of this forum. Should the AH guys be asked to declare they are going home and taken off the final paring and a ladder then prepared, or should they just not show and pull up alternates as they don't show. Changes the ladder a bit. More as the numbers come in.

The last national event i went to Jeff i told the powers to be that i would not be running eliminator because we broke and they left me on the ladder anyways. Unless we brake there will be at least one SS/AH car in eliminator if we qualify. Chuck

cicero819 08-19-2012 11:39 AM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
Shouldn't be on the ladder if not running.

jmcarter 08-19-2012 12:33 PM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
Not sure why Chris hasn't posted this already, having excel import issues myself but you get the point....LOTS of great class action for Thursday...and the AH cars should declare if they aren't running the eliminator, seems like a common courtesy thing to me...the usual disclaimer relative to guys having one car on their entry and actually teching in with something else entirely.



A/S Brett McFarland '68 Camaro
A/S Caleb McFarland '12 Camaro
A/S Kevin Helms '11 Challenger
A/S Jason Mc Cormack '66 Belvedere
A/S Joseph Martens '69 Camaro
A/SA Larry Hill '71 Plymouth
A/SA David Latino '02 Pontiac
A/SA Irvin Johns '10 Ford
A/SA David Ficacci '69 Camaro
A/SA Derek Atwill '10 Dodge
A/SA Brian Martel '70 Chevy Nova
A/SA Robbie Hudlow '10 Mustang
A/SA David Barton '10 Dodge
A/SA Charles Fitzsimmons '09 Challenger
A/SA Harold Costello '00 Pontiac
A/SA Leonard Mattingly Jr '00 Firebird
A/SA Dennis Breeden '10 Challenger
A/SA Jimmie Hutto Jr '69 Camaro
A/SA Fred Henson '70 Challenger
A/SA Paul Candies '10 Challenger
A/SA Bobby Brannon '69 Camaro
A/SA David Buckner '09 Dodge RT
A/SA Tibor Kadar '64 Fairlane
AA/S Don Fezell '08 Mustang
AA/SA Bo Butner III '12 Mustang
AA/SA Bill Skillman '12 Ford
AA/SA Richard Rodgers '12 Mustang
AAA/SA Gary Richard '10 Mustang
AAA/SA Kevin Skinner '13 Ford
AAA/SA Ray Skillman '12 Ford
AAA/SA Drew Skillman '10 Ford
AF/S Charles Blossom '04 Neon
B/S Tim Bishop '97 Firehawk
B/S Jeff Strickland '70 Chevy
B/SA Slate Cummings '99 Firebird
B/SA Jim Boudreau '69 Camaro
B/SA Brian Johns '00 Pontiac
B/SA Sam Pourciau '00 Z28
B/SA Jimmy DeFrank '69 Chevy
B/SA Francois Periard '68 Road Runner
B/SA Jack Zimmerman '71 Challenger
B/SA Brian Livengood '69 Camaro
B/SA Randy Wilkes '01 Firebird
B/SA Nick Folk '00 Corvette
B/SA Terry Emmons '69 Chevrolet
B/SA Jerry Emmons '69 Chevrolet
B/SA Kevin Stubbs '99 CHEV
B/SA Al Corda '02 Corvette
BB/S Don Garlits '11 Challenger
BB/S George Wright '08 Cobra
BB/SA Steven Ficacci '08 Ford
BB/SA Bo Kenney '08 Mustang
BB/SA Chris Holbrook '12 Mustang
BB/SA Brett Candies '12 Ford
C/S Ben Wenzel Sr '67 Camaro
C/SA Mike Ficacci '12 Ford
C/SA Amy Faulk '01 Firebird
C/SA Robert Dean '94 Camaro
C/SA Jeff Taylor '69 Chevrolet
C/SA Travis Sturgell '70 Chevelle
C/SA Bryan Merkle '00 2000
C/SA Dave Edwards '94 Camaro
C/SA Britt Cummings '94 Camaro
C/SA Kyle Ratcliff '98 Firebird
C/SA Gary Emmons '98 Firebird
CC/SA Larry Smith '10 Challenger
CC/SA Douglas Duell '09 Dodge
CC/SA JC Beattie JR '09 Challenger
CC/SA Kenneth Miele '67 Shelby
CC/SA Danny Wilson '09 Challenger
CC/SA Dave Connolly '12 Chevy
CC/SA John Mc Leod III '09 Dodge
CC/SA Joey Teuton '11 Challenger
CC/SA Todd Patterson '12 Camaro
D/S Doug Auxier '97 Camaro
D/S John Duzac '67 Camaro
D/S Tim Tosto '99 Camaro
D/SA Kevin Zaskowski '68 Camaro
D/SA Edward Brooks '97 Chevrolet
D/SA Randi Lyn Shipp '67 Pontiac
D/SA Bruce Gibson '71 Demon
D/SA Ricky Pennington '12 Ford
E/SA Mitch Truman '67 Camaro
E/SA Bryan Phillips '67 Firebird
E/SA Joey Wilkes '04 GTO
E/SA Jerry Bennett '62 Plymouth
E/SA Bill McClister '04 GTO
E/SA Randy Eakins '10 Challenger
E/SA Kevin Cour '10 Ford
EF/S Ronald Seibenick '84 Topaz
F/SA Jeff Teuton '09 Challenger
F/SA Mark Lelchook '69 Plymouth
F/SA Tim Gillespie '68 Pontiac
F/SA Eric Reyes '13 Chevrolet
G/S David Walther '69 Camaro
G/S Donnie Beeler '67 Camaro
G/S Paul Wong '10 Ford
G/SA Robert Akers '73 Duster
G/SA Carl Massafra '69 Camaro
G/SA Charles Veach Jr '84 Camaro
G/SA Mike Welfel '69 Camaro
G/SA William Belanger '69 Nova
G/SA Chuck Beach '68 Barracuda
G/SA Tom Rambo '68 Camaro
G/SA Jerry Davis '72 Duster
G/SA Paula Cotten '73 Duster
G/SA Monty Jones '86 Camaro
H/SA Merrill Schrimscher '85 Camaro
H/SA Brent Robbins '86 Camaro
H/SA Dennis Patterson '69 Nova
H/SA Lyn Smith '73 Buick
H/SA Mike Mc Ginley '90 Pontiac
H/SA Verne Buchanan '73 Mustang
I/S Dick Kincaid '95 Mustang
I/SA Chris Stephenson '73 Buick
I/SA Rick Winchester '72 Camaro
I/SA Dic Geary '72 Camaro
J/SA Eugene Monahan '90 Firebird
J/SA Carlton Sweasy '77 Corvette
K/S Bill Sempsrott '66 Nova
K/SA Tim Lowe '72 Buick GS
K/SA Mike Morgan '76 Pontiac
L/S Lewis Conkey '88 Camaro
L/SA Bob Gere '72 Buick GS
L/SA Wade Owens '66 Chevelle
M/S Tommy Turner '85 Mustang
M/SA Wes Neely '88 Trans Am
O/S Rosalyn Gresens '89 Mustang
O/S Jimmy Gower '66 Chevel
O/S Gary Summers '85 Mustang
O/SA Patrick Downing '83 Malibu Wagon
O/SA Bobby Bishop Jr '89 Mustang
Q/SA Dave Campolito '96 Caprice
R/S Timothy Weinzapfel '66 Bel Air Wagon
R/SA Bert Morgan '75 Buick
U/SA Richard Muhlenhardt '86 GMC
V/SA McNeal Freeman '85 Caprice
V/SA Robert Lehman '80 *********
W/S Ellis Buth '76 Pinto
W/SA Gerald Nivans '91 Ranger

chris ok 08-19-2012 12:49 PM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
L/SA Bob Gere '72 Buick GS
L/SA Wade Owens '66 Chevelle

wow smallblock class battle of the muscle cars, this has to be pro recorded, please.




What a great lineup this year overall for the class racing, so many fasstttt cars.
I hope this all gets documented for us dreamers to watch from home.

jmcarter 08-19-2012 12:49 PM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
And the SS numbers as of 12:49PM EDT today...



GT/AA Jerry Silveus '05 Cavalier
GT/AA Paul Hellenberg '05 Cavalier
GT/AA Gary Richard '10 Mustang
GT/AA Andy Fogle '05 Cavalier
GT/AA Stacy Mc Carty '05 Grand AM
GT/AA Joey Wilkes '10 Pontiac
GT/AA Charlie Bohannon '98 Dodge
GT/AA Brett Candies '10 Mustang
GT/AA Robert Cruzen '10 Chevrolet
GT/BA David Neal '05 Sundance
GT/BA Andy Kronenbitter '05 Cavalier
GT/BA Willard Daugherty '96 Ford
GT/BA Brina Splingaire '08 Cobalt
GT/BA Jerry Emmons '05 Cheverolet
GT/BA Tom Nolan '09 Pontiac
GT/BA Sean Cour '09 Cobalt
GT/C Ernie Neal '05 Cavalier
GT/C Victor Krol '85 Mustang
GT/C David Manning '89 Beretta
GT/CA Lynn Ellison '04 Sunfire
GT/CA Thomas Randall '02 Cavalier
GT/CA Irvin Johns '08 Cobalt
GT/CA Norm Hall '05 Cavalier
GT/CA Nick Folk '99 Chevrolet
GT/D Dan Jacobs '66 Chevy II
GT/DA Peter Biondo '98 Firebird
GT/DA David Latino '06 Chevy
GT/DA Todd Frantz '88 Cheverolet
GT/DA Roger Keeling '09 Cobalt
GT/EA Herbie Null Jr '87 Camaro
GT/EA Rich South '08 Pontiac
GT/EA Mark Nowicki '98 Avenger
GT/EA Robert Cruzen '03 Cavalier
GT/F Brad Zaskowski '87 Camaro
GT/FA Steven Smith '91 Pontiac
GT/FA Gregory Meyer '92 Firebird
GT/FA Jeff Niceswanger '89 Camaro
GT/FA Pete Peery '91 Calais
GT/GA Dan Kyle '88 Pontiac
GT/GA Dave Layer '08 Cobalt
GT/GA Michael Bryant '91 Calais
GT/GA Lloyd Wofford Jr '78 Volare
GT/H Gary Tompa '84 Firebird
GT/HA Michael Volkman '00 Sebring
GT/HA David Jackson '92 Firebird
GT/HA Aaron Disinger '92 Ciera
GT/HA Brent Mandery '92 Ciera
GT/I Gene Bichlmeier '66 Chevy II
GT/IA Tom Sheehan '00 Sebring
GT/J James Hill '64 Ford
GT/J Bill Zaskowski '66 Chev II
GT/KA Stan Perry Jr '95 Achieva
GT/L David Smith '66 Nova
GT/MA Bobby Dennis '90 Calais
GT/MA Ronnie Dutton '80 Monza
GT/MA Ken Sharp '90 Eldorado
GT/MA Kevin Murphy '88 Cutlass
GT/TB Patrick Twitchell '03 S-10
GT/TB Drew Allen '05 Cheverolet
GT/TC Matt Hoover '01 Chevy Truck
SS/A Brandon Wilkinson '69 Corvette
SS/A Marty Rinehart Jr '12 Camaro
SS/AAA Michael Wesolowski Sr '12 Ford
SS/AAA Bo Kenney '12 Mustang
SS/AAA Drew Skillman '12 Ford
SS/AAA Paul Candies '12 Ford
SS/AAA Randy Hopkins '12 Mustang
SS/AH Wendell Howes '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Larry Perkins Sr '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Gary Jacob '68 Dart
SS/AH Jeffrey Kobylski '68 Dodge
SS/AH Jim Pancake '68 Dart
SS/AH Tony De Pillo '68 Plymouth
SS/AH Kyle Ratcliff '68 Plymouth
SS/AH Steven Kent '69 Barracuda
SS/AH Dave Raybourn '68 Dart
SS/AH Rick Houser '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Tyler Hard '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Gus Mantas '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Melvin Daniels '68 Dart
SS/AH Gary Wolkwitz '68 Dodge
SS/AH Stephen Comella '68 Dodge
SS/AH David Barton '68 Dodge
SS/AH Charlie Westcott '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Randall Warford '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Charlie Westcott Jr '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Stephen Hebert '68 Plymouth
SS/AH Fred Henson '68 Dart
SS/AH Tim Hebert '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Joe Teuton III '68 Plymouth
SS/AH Joseph Paillot III '68 Dodge
SS/AH Russ Campbell '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Dan Zrust '68 Barracuda
SS/AH Mike Booker '68 Barracuda
SS/AS Wes Leopold Jr '05 Stratus
SS/AS Rick Paton '02 Camaro
SS/B Paul Adams '64 Ford
SS/B Ray Paquet '64 Fairlane
SS/B Jimmy Bridges '65 Corvette
SS/B A.H. Adkins '69 AMX
SS/BA Roy Hill '10 *********
SS/BA Robert Patrick Jr '10 *********
SS/BA Ken Schindler '71 Corvette
SS/BA Ray Skillman '10 Ford
SS/BM Arnie Martel '12 Camaro
SS/BM Jim Smiley '91 Calais
SS/BS Jimmy DeFrank '10 Cobalt
SS/BS Gary Coccaro '05 Sunfire
SS/BS Slate Cummings '08 Cavalier
SS/BS Mike Farrell '05 Cavalier
SS/CA Rock Haas '08 Mustang
SS/CA Bill Skillman '12 Ford
SS/CA Anthony Bongiovanni '08 Ford
SS/CM Steven Johnson '95 Grand Am
SS/CM Larry Cummings '08 Cavalier
SS/D Kenneth Vaughn '68 Camaro
SS/DA Kevin Helms '11 Dodge
SS/DA Allen Wade '69 Camaro
SS/DA Joey Teuton '11 Dodge
SS/DA Mike Bogina '70 Barracuda
SS/DM Mike Crutchfield '09 Pontiac
SS/DM Matt Forbes '92 Cheverolet
SS/DX Carey Bales '04 Honda
SS/EA Ryan Haag '67 Camaro
SS/EA Eric Bell '70 Dodge
SS/F Stephen Belanger '67 Chevy II
SS/F Jeff Colvert '69 Mustang
SS/F Paul Anderson '67 Camaro
SS/FA Jack Bystrom '68 Camaro
SS/G Sean Gaffney '66 Chev II
SS/GA Jeremy Duncan '69 Camaro
SS/GA Terry Emmons '69 Chevrolet
SS/GS Timothy Kish '99 Neon
SS/HA Jeff Dona '98 Pontiac
SS/IA Bill Foder '68 Corvette
SS/IA Bret Voges '97 Camaro
SS/IA Gary Emmons '96 Firebird
SS/JA Mike Cotten '70 Plymouth
SS/JA David Tincher '95 Corvette
SS/JA Angelo De Carlo '63 Cheverolet
SS/JA Ronnie Terrell '84 Camaro
SS/JA Don O' Malley '64 Corvette
SS/JA Ed Wright '96 Trans Am
SS/KA Chad Taylor '88 Camaro
SS/KA Terry Earwood '82 Camaro
SS/KA Monte Howard '78 Firebird
SS/KA Larry Hodge '84 Monte Carlo
SS/KA David Dupps Jr '85 Camaro
SS/KA Jim Harrison '66 Nova
SS/LA Ron Taylor '57 Chevrolet
SS/M Dick Lux '64 Comet
SS/MA Zack Running '84 Cutlass
SS/MA Garrett Ghezzi '69 AMX
SS/MA Bill Rink '74 Pontiac
SS/N Bill Dyer Jr '85 Mustang
SS/N Gary Summers '85 Mustang
SS/NA Eric Stewart '84 Cutlass
SS/NA Donnie Fuller '80 Aspen
SS/NA Randall Klein '56 Nomad
SS/NA Rick Pike '56 Chevrolet
SS/O Richard Feldman '66 Impala
SS/OA Myron Ramey '56 Chevy
SS/PA Rene Garza '55 Chevrolet
SS/VX Mark Prothero '57 Volkswagen
SSA/A John Armstrong '69 Corvette
SSA/A Jason Shumate '65 Belvedere

Larry Hill 08-19-2012 03:47 PM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
It looks like 21 in B/SA. I think all cars with carbs and pre 2008 cars will not be in A/SA unless they will not figure B/SA!!

If the new cars run B/SA we are all dead fish in a barrel.

Spyphish 08-19-2012 04:07 PM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
Jeff, due to my lack of high level of education, knowledge, and general racing experience, I always let NHRA staff know that I will not be in the eliminator. FYI anyone that has any of those three things above would not have a Hemi car.Ha!

After our Chootout at Belle Rose this Spring, which I ramrodded by default, I polled the AH guys and gave the results to the tower. This was to eliminate a lot of the bye runs at the Cajuns. I would think this would be more important at Indy since there is a cut line. As I pass out pralines and cigars to the teams, will be glad to ask. This is one Indy not to miss with us antique-ers and the new Super Car's. Stephen

Larry Hill 08-20-2012 08:29 PM

Re: Class Numbers Indy, Question
 
May I be a temporary member of a Hemi team so I can stand in line for some of those good Louisiana pralines??

Patsy


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