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X-TECH MAN 09-07-2010 04:48 PM

Hood scoopes
 
Dont take this wrong but when did NHRA allow hood scoops on 1966 Street Hemis and the fiberglass Ford hood and scoop on the 427 Ford Fairlane station wagons (west coast car) with either one 4 or two 4's? I think they look cool but they originally did not come on those combos. 67 was the first year for the Street Hemis as a WO or an RO S/S package and the 2 door hard tops and sedans were the only Fairlanes with a glass hood and scoop. Was this a change made in recent times? Im just asking when this came about? Was it a letter from Carrol Shelby or mother MoPar?

BlueOval Ralph 09-07-2010 05:13 PM

Re: Hood scoopes
 
It's called paper options!!! Been thinking about building a 66 Shelby with hood scoop and Paxton I thought i saw in in NHRA specs

Frank Bialas 09-07-2010 09:46 PM

Re: Hood scoopes
 
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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 208753)
Dont take this wrong but when did NHRA allow hood scoopes on 1966 Street Hemis and the fiberglass Ford hood and scoop on the 427 Ford station wagons (west coast car) with either one 4 or two 4's? I think they look cool but they originally did not come on those combos. 67 was the first year for the Street Hemis as a WO or an RO S/S package and the 2 door hard tops and sedans were the only Fairlanes with a glass hood and scoope. Was this a change made in recent times? Im just asking when this came about? Was it a letter from Carrol Shelby or mother MoPar?

Terry I believe your right, because MOPAR DID NOT put a scoop on anything in 1966... The STREET HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths in the hardtop or sedans in 66 & 67, but WITHOUT a scoop!!! In 1967 the RACE HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths WO and RO package was superstock ONLY and hardtop ONLY and yes WITH a scoop!!! Your memory serves you well, not sure about the FORDS but we know someone that does.Maybe there was a letter -[MORE PAPER]

X-TECH MAN 09-07-2010 09:52 PM

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And how did the single 4 NASCAR verson end up with a scoop? Did you ever see a NASCAR race back in 1964 or 65 where the mopars were running a hood scoop? I watched and I didnt see a single mopar with a hood scoop running around Daytona !

Frank Bialas 09-07-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 208826)
And how did the single 4 NASCAR verson end up with a scoop? Did you ever see a NASCAR race back in 1964 or 65 where the mopars were running a hood scoop? I didnt !

Yet another good question, probably more [GOOD PAPER] it must be legal, cause it's HAPPENING. HEY DAVE MANN IF YOUR OUT THERE WATCHING WHAT DO YOU THINK??? AND I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I ONCE HAD A PAPER ROUTE.

Shawn Blair 09-07-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Bialas (Post 208825)
Terry I believe your right, because MOPAR DID NOT put a scoop on anything in 1966... The STREET HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths in the hardtop or sedans in 66 & 67, but WITHOUT a scoop!!! In 1967 the RACE HEMIS were available in Dodges & Plymouths WO and RO package was superstock ONLY and hardtop ONLY and yes WITH a scoop!!! Your memory serves you well, not sure about the FORDS but we know someone that does.Maybe there was a letter -[MORE PAPER]

Yes........... but the engines were street Hemi's in the RO/WO cars. lower compression and inline dual Carter's!

Gordie Kissner 09-07-2010 11:46 PM

Re: Hood scoopes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN (Post 208753)
Dont take this wrong but when did NHRA allow hood scoops on 1966 Street Hemis and the fiberglass Ford hood and scoop on the 427 Ford Fairlane station wagons (west coast car) with either one 4 or two 4's? I think they look cool but they originally did not come on those combos. 67 was the first year for the Street Hemis as a WO or an RO S/S package and the 2 door hard tops and sedans were the only Fairlanes with a glass hood and scoop. Was this a change made in recent times? Im just asking when this came about? Was it a letter from Carrol Shelby or mother MoPar?

Jason has run his Belvedere as both a 66 w/o scoop and 67 w/scoop..That was always the argument with Judy Lily's 67 2dr S/S sedan that it supposedly came straight from MaMopar as a RO equipped 2dr sedan. If I remember what I read about it is they made them change it back to a non scooped hood.

Jeff Lee 09-08-2010 01:24 AM

Re: Hood scoopes
 
And I remember a Stock racer who had a 428 CJ '68 Cougar in E/S. He fought NHRA for a ram-air system & they said "no, never existed". I'm no Ford expert but I would bet the evidence is there that Cougars were available with ram-air in '67-'68 (non shaker style).

X-TECH MAN 09-08-2010 06:20 AM

Re: Hood scoopes
 
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Originally Posted by Gordie Kissner (Post 208868)
Jason has run his Belvedere as both a 66 w/o scoop and 67 w/scoop..That was always the argument with Judy Lily's 67 2dr S/S sedan that it supposedly came straight from MaMopar as a RO equipped 2dr sedan. If I remember what I read about it is they made them change it back to a non scooped hood.

Dosent matter what year he claims.....The hood scoop ONLY came on the WO and RO Super Stock package 2 door hard top Belvederes. All the Judy Lilly stuff was just MoPar tryng to pull some BS.....Like the new DP's......lol. I lived thru that era and years earlier but lets just say that someone left the barn door open at NHRA and ALL of the cows (and Elvis) have left the building ! Its not what is stock or OEM but its what NHRA allows you to get away with is all that counts or matters.

X-TECH MAN 09-08-2010 06:23 AM

Re: Hood scoopes
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lee (Post 208867)
And I remember a Stock racer who had a 428 CJ '68 Cougar in E/S. He fought NHRA for a ram-air system & they said "no, never existed". I'm no Ford expert but I would bet the evidence is there that Cougars were available with ram-air in '67-'68 (non shaker style).

69 only.....but NHRA has allowed a lot of stuff that never came OEM on a lot of combos since Farmer retired.


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